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From: "Dr. Greg" <greg@enjellic.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v40 10/24] mm: Add 'mprotect' hook to struct vm_operations_struct
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 11:43:59 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201106174359.GA24109@wind.enjellic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201104145430.300542-11-jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, Nov 04, 2020 at 04:54:16PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:

Good morning, I hope the week has gone well for everyone.

> From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
> 
> Background
> ==========
> 
> 1. SGX enclave pages are populated with data by copying from normal memory
>    via ioctl() (SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_ADD_PAGES), which will be added later in
>    this series.
> 2. It is desirable to be able to restrict those normal memory data sources.
>    For instance, to ensure that the source data is executable before
>    copying data to an executable enclave page.
> 3. Enclave page permissions are dynamic (just like normal permissions) and
>    can be adjusted at runtime with mprotect().

Only relevant on SGX2 hardware, see discussion below.

> This creates a problem because the original data source may have
> long since vanished at the time when enclave page permissions are
> established (mmap() or mprotect()).
>
> The solution (elsewhere in this series) is to force enclaves

I don't believe that enclaves should be plural in this context.

> creators to declare their paging permission *intent* up front to the
> ioctl().  This intent can me immediately compared to the source

The 'me' should be 'be' in the above line.

> data???s mapping and rejected if necessary.
>
> The ???intent??? is also stashed off for later comparison with
> enclave PTEs. This ensures that any future mmap()/mprotect()
> operations performed by the enclave creator or done on behalf of the
> enclave can be compared with the earlier declared permissions.

Just some further clarifications that should, arguably, be included in
the kernel documentation given their security implications.

The 900 pound primate in the room, that no one is acknowledging, is
that this technology was designed to not allow the operating system to
have any control over what it is doing.  In the mindset of kernel
developers, the operating system is the absolute authority on
security, so we find ourselves in a situation where the kernel needs
to try and work around this fact so any solutions will be imperfect at
best.

As I've noted before, this is actually a primary objective of enclave
authors, since one of the desires for 'Confidential Computing' is to
hide things like proprietary algorithms from the platform owners.  I
think the driver needs to acknowledge this fact and equip platform
owners with the simplest and most effective security solutions that
are available.

The only reason that mprotect protections are needed in this driver
are to close a security loophole on SGX2 hardware, ie. hardware that
supports the ENCLU[EMODPE] instruction.  This instruction allows an
enclave to modify page permissions that are encoded in the Enclave
Page Cache Metadata (EPCM) at initialization time.  In all likelihood,
this is going to be the only relevant hardware that this driver runs
on.

On SGX2 hardware, enclave based code can conspire with its untrusted
runtime to allow executable regions to have write permissions.  This
would allow the enclave to load and execute whatever code that it
pleases and that the operating system would have no visibility into
whatsoever.

The non-SGX2 platforms don't need mprotect protections since even if
they were to modify at the OS level their page permissions, any
attempts to access a page with modified permissions would be trapped
by the EPCM protections that are unmodifiable after the enclave has
been initialized.

In light of this, given the decision by the driver authors to not
fully equip the driver with EDMM support, the mprotect protection
requirements are straight forward and minimalistic.  All that is
needed is a binary valued variable, set on the command-line, that
either allows or denies anonymous code execution by an enclave,
ie. access to page protection changes after initialization.

The enclave page mapping callback is elegant but has little use if the
objective of all this is to allow the driver to enforce SGX1 semantics
on a platform that has SGX2 instruction support.  Save the elegant
solution until a reasoned arguement can be made as to what anyone
would actually be able to do with the per page permissions checks,
even on an EDMM capable driver.

I could go into detail on that issue as well but I hesitate to be an
insufferable bore.

I hope all of this is helpful.

Have a good weekend.

Dr. Greg

As always,
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-06 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-04 14:54 [PATCH v40 00/24] Intel SGX foundations Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 01/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX architectural data structures Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 02/24] x86/sgx: Add wrappers for ENCLS functions Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 03/24] x86/sgx: Initialize metadata for Enclave Page Cache (EPC) sections Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 18:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-04 19:04     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 19:09       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 19:12         ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 04/24] x86/cpufeatures: x86/msr: Add Intel SGX hardware bits Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 05/24] x86/cpufeatures: x86/msr: Add Intel SGX Launch Control " Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 06/24] x86/mm: x86/sgx: Signal SIGSEGV with PF_SGX Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 07/24] x86/cpu/intel: Detect SGX support Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 08/24] x86/cpu/intel: Add nosgx kernel parameter Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 09/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX page allocator functions Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-05 15:08   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 10/24] mm: Add 'mprotect' hook to struct vm_operations_struct Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-05 16:04   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-05 17:33     ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-06 10:04   ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-06 16:51     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-06 20:37       ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-06 22:04         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-06 22:31           ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-06 17:43   ` Dr. Greg [this message]
2020-11-06 17:54     ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-07 15:09       ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-07 19:16         ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-12 20:58           ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-12 21:31             ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-12 22:41               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-12 22:41                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-16 18:00                 ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-19  1:39                   ` Haitao Huang
2020-11-20 17:31                     ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-15 18:59               ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-06 21:13     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-06 21:23       ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-07 15:27       ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 11/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX misc driver interface Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-05  1:10   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-05  1:16     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-05 16:05       ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-05 17:57         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-05 18:10           ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-06 16:07             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-06 17:09               ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-06 22:01                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 12/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_CREATE Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 13/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_ADD_PAGES Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 14/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_INIT Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 15/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_PROVISION Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 16/24] x86/vdso: Add support for exception fixup in vDSO functions Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 17/24] x86/fault: Add helper function to sanitize error code Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 18/24] x86/traps: Attempt to fixup exceptions in vDSO before signaling Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 19/24] x86/vdso: Implement a vDSO for Intel SGX enclave call Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-08 18:24   ` Jethro Beekman
2020-11-08 20:08   ` Jethro Beekman
2020-11-08 20:26     ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-08 20:20   ` Jethro Beekman
2020-11-08 20:30     ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 20/24] selftests/x86: Add a selftest for SGX Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 21/24] x86/sgx: Add a page reclaimer Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-08  3:56   ` Hillf Danton
2020-11-09 19:59     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 22/24] x86/sgx: Add ptrace() support for the SGX driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 23/24] docs: x86/sgx: Document SGX kernel architecture Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 24/24] x86/sgx: Update MAINTAINERS Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-08 20:48 ` [PATCH v40 00/24] Intel SGX foundations Jethro Beekman
2020-11-21 15:12 ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-21 16:25   ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-24 10:55     ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-24 17:49       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-21 18:36   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-24 18:40     ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-24 21:57       ` Andy Lutomirski

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