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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 5/8] ntp: Make the RTC synchronization more reliable
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 16:59:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201207205903.GK5487@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201206220542.062910520@linutronix.de>

On Sun, Dec 06, 2020 at 10:46:18PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Miroslav reported that the periodic RTC synchronization in the NTP code
> fails more often than not to hit the specified update window.
> 
> The reason is that the code uses delayed_work to schedule the update which
> needs to be in thread context as the underlying RTC might be connected via
> a slow bus, e.g. I2C. In the update function it verifies whether the
> current time is correct vs. the requirements of the underlying RTC.
> 
> But delayed_work is using the timer wheel for scheduling which is
> inaccurate by design. Depending on the distance to the expiry the wheel
> gets less granular to allow batching and to avoid the cascading of the
> original timer wheel. See 500462a9de65 ("timers: Switch to a non-cascading
> wheel") and the code for further details.
> 
> The code already deals with this by splitting the 660 seconds period into a
> long 659 seconds timer and then retrying with a smaller delta.
> 
> But looking at the actual granularities of the timer wheel (which depend on
> the HZ configuration) the 659 seconds timer ends up in an outer wheel level
> and is affected by a worst case granularity of:
> 
> HZ          Granularity
> 1000        32s
>  250        16s
>  100        40s
> 
> So the initial timer can be already off by max 12.5% which is not a big
> issue as the period of the sync is defined as ~11 minutes.
> 
> The fine grained second attempt schedules to the desired update point with
> a timer expiring less than a second from now. Depending on the actual delta
> and the HZ setting even the second attempt can end up in outer wheel levels
> which have a large enough granularity to make the correctness check fail.
> 
> As this is a fundamental property of the timer wheel there is no way to
> make this more accurate short of iterating in one jiffies steps towards the
> update point.
> 
> Switch it to an hrtimer instead which schedules the actual update work. The
> hrtimer will expire precisely (max 1 jiffie delay when high resolution
> timers are not available). The actual scheduling delay of the work is the
> same as before.
> 
> The update is triggered from do_adjtimex() which is a bit racy but not much
> more racy than it was before:
> 
>      if (ntp_synced())
>      	queue_delayed_work(system_power_efficient_wq, &sync_work, 0);
> 
> which is racy when the work is currently executed and has not managed to
> reschedule itself.
> 
> This becomes now:
> 
>      if (ntp_synced() && !hrtimer_is_queued(&sync_hrtimer))
>      	queue_work(system_power_efficient_wq, &sync_work, 0);
> 
> which is racy when the hrtimer has expired and the work is currently
> executed and has not yet managed to rearm the hrtimer.
> 
> Not a big problem as it just schedules work for nothing.
> 
> The new implementation has a safe guard in place to catch the case where
> the hrtimer is queued on entry to the work function and avoids an extra
> update attempt of the RTC that way.
> 
> Reported-by: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
> Cc: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
> Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
> ---
>  include/linux/timex.h      |    1 
>  kernel/time/ntp.c          |   90 ++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------------
>  kernel/time/ntp_internal.h |    7 +++
>  3 files changed, 55 insertions(+), 43 deletions(-)

Reviewed-by: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>

Jason

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-07 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-06 21:46 [patch 0/8] ntp/rtc: Fixes and cleanups Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-06 21:46 ` [patch 1/8] rtc: mc146818: Prevent reading garbage Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-11 10:07   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2021-01-25 18:40   ` [patch 1/8] rtc: mc146818: Prevent reading garbage - bug Mickaël Salaün
2021-01-26 13:26     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-01-26 14:17       ` Mickaël Salaün
2021-01-26 15:35         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-01-26 17:02           ` [PATCH V2] rtc: mc146818: Detect and handle broken RTCs Thomas Gleixner
2021-01-26 18:00             ` Alexandre Belloni
2021-01-27  8:41             ` [tip: timers/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2021-01-31 10:59             ` [PATCH V2] " Dirk Gouders
2021-02-01 13:53               ` Serge Belyshev
2021-02-01 19:09                 ` [PATCH] rtc: mc146818: Dont test for bit 0-5 in Register D Thomas Gleixner
2021-02-01 19:24                   ` [PATCH V2] " Thomas Gleixner
2021-02-01 19:32                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-02-01 19:40                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-02-11 23:09                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-02-01 19:38                     ` Alexandre Belloni
2021-02-01 20:09                     ` Borislav Petkov
2021-02-01 20:15                     ` Dirk Gouders
2021-02-02  4:22                     ` Len Brown
2021-02-02 19:40                     ` [tip: timers/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2021-02-03 13:00                     ` [PATCH V2] " Mickaël Salaün
2020-12-06 21:46 ` [patch 2/8] rtc: mc146818: Reduce spinlock section in mc146818_set_time() Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-11 10:07   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-06 21:46 ` [patch 3/8] rtc: cmos: Make rtc_cmos sync offset correct Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-07 20:50   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-11 10:07   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-06 21:46 ` [patch 4/8] rtc: core: Make the sync offset default more realistic Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-07 20:55   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-10 23:59   ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-11  0:23     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-11  0:28       ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-11 10:07   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-06 21:46 ` [patch 5/8] ntp: Make the RTC synchronization more reliable Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-07 12:47   ` Miroslav Lichvar
2020-12-07 20:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-12-11 10:07   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-29 19:41   ` [patch 5/8] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-11 10:12     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-01-11 10:40       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-12-06 21:46 ` [patch 6/8] ntp, rtc: Move rtc_set_ntp_time() to ntp code Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-07 20:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-09  3:51     ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-11 10:07   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-06 21:46 ` [patch 7/8] ntp: Make the RTC sync offset less obscure Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-11 10:07   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-06 21:46 ` [patch 8/8] ntp: Consolidate the RTC update implementation Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-07 21:05   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-11  9:23     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-11 10:07   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-09  0:33 ` [patch 0/8] ntp/rtc: Fixes and cleanups Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-09  4:01   ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-09 12:39     ` Thomas Gleixner

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