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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Gal Pressman <galpress@amazon.com>
Cc: aarcange@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	gokhale2@llnl.gov, hch@lst.de, jack@suse.cz, jannh@google.com,
	jhubbard@nvidia.com, kirill@shutemov.name, ktkhai@virtuozzo.com,
	leonro@nvidia.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, mcfadden8@llnl.gov, oleg@redhat.com,
	peterx@redhat.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	wzam@amazon.com, yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] mm: Trial do_wp_page() simplification
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 10:00:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210203140015.GP4718@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210203124358.59017-1-galpress@amazon.com>

On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 02:43:58PM +0200, Gal Pressman wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 12:05:36PM -0500, Peter Xu wrote:
> > 
> >> > Gal, you could also MADV_DONTFORK this range if you are explicitly
> >> > allocating them via special mmap.
> >> 
> >> Yeah I wanted to mention this one too but I just forgot when reply: the issue
> >> thread previously pasted smells like some people would like to drop
> >> MADV_DONTFORK, but if it's able to still be applied I don't know why
> >> not..
> > 
> > I want to drop the MADV_DONTFORK for dynamic data memory allocated by
> > the application layers (eg with malloc) without knowledge of how they
> > will be used.
> > 
> > This case is a buffer internal to the communication system that we
> > know at allocation time how it will be used; so an explicit,
> > deliberate, MADV_DONTFORK is fine
> 
> We are referring to libfabric's bounce buffers, correct?
> Libfabric could be considered as the "app" here, it's not clear why these
> buffers should be DONTFORK'd before ibv_reg_mr() but others don't.

I assumed they were internal to the EFA code itself.

> Anyway, it should be simple enough to madvise them after allocation, although I
> think it's part of libfabric's generic code (which isn't necessarily used on
> top of rdma-core).

Ah, so that is a reasonable justification for wanting to fix this in
the kernel..

Lets give Peter some time first.

The other direction to validate this approach is to remove the
MAP_HUGETLB flags and rely on THP instead, and/or mark them as
MAP_SHARED.

I'm not sure generic code should be use using MAP_HUGETLB..

This would be enough to confirm that everything else is working as
expected

Thanks,
Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-03 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-02 14:40 [PATCH 1/4] mm: Trial do_wp_page() simplification Gal Pressman
2021-02-02 16:31 ` Peter Xu
2021-02-02 16:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-02 17:05     ` Peter Xu
2021-02-02 17:13       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-03 12:43         ` Gal Pressman
2021-02-03 14:00           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-02-03 14:47             ` Gal Pressman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-08-21 23:49 [PATCH 0/4] mm: Simplfy cow handling Peter Xu
2020-08-21 23:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: Trial do_wp_page() simplification Peter Xu
2020-08-24  8:36   ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-08-24 14:30     ` Jan Kara
2020-08-24 15:37       ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-08-24 18:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-24 18:22           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-01  7:01           ` Hugh Dickins
2020-09-01  7:01             ` Hugh Dickins
2020-09-14 14:38   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 17:32     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-14 17:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-14 18:34       ` Peter Xu
2020-09-14 21:15         ` Peter Xu
2020-09-14 22:55           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 22:59             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-14 22:59               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-14 23:28               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15  0:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15  0:19                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 14:50                 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-15 15:17                   ` Peter Xu
2020-09-15 16:05                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 18:29                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 19:13                       ` Peter Xu
2020-09-15 19:38                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 21:33                           ` Peter Xu
2020-09-15 23:22                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16  1:50                               ` John Hubbard
2020-09-16 17:48                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 18:46                                   ` Peter Xu
2020-09-17 11:25                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 18:11                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 18:11                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 19:38                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 19:51                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 19:51                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18 16:40                                             ` Peter Xu
2020-09-18 17:16                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18 17:16                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18 19:57                                                 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-18 17:32                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 20:40                                                 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-18 20:59                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18 20:59                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-19  0:28                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-18 21:06                                                   ` John Hubbard
2020-09-19  0:01                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-21  8:35                                                       ` Jan Kara
2020-09-21 12:03                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-16 16:59                                                           ` Oded Gabbay
2022-02-16 17:24                                                             ` Oded Gabbay
2022-02-16 19:04                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-16 19:20                                                               ` Oded Gabbay
2022-02-16 19:24                                                               ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-21 13:42                                               ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-21 14:18                                                 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-21 14:28                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-21 14:38                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2020-09-21 14:43                                                       ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-21 14:55                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-21 15:04                                                           ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-21 16:06                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-23  7:53                                                               ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-21 14:41                                                 ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-21 14:57                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-21 16:31                                                     ` Peter Xu
2020-09-17 18:14                                       ` Peter Xu
2020-09-17 18:26                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 18:26                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 19:03                                           ` Peter Xu
2020-09-17 19:42                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 19:42                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 19:55                                               ` John Hubbard
2020-09-17 20:06                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 20:19                                                 ` John Hubbard
2020-09-17 20:25                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 20:35                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 20:35                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 21:40                                                   ` Peter Xu
2020-09-17 22:09                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 22:25                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 22:25                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 22:48                                                       ` Ira Weiny
2020-09-18  9:36                                                         ` Jan Kara
2020-09-18  9:44                                                       ` Jan Kara
2020-09-18 16:19                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 10:23           ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-15 15:56           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 15:03   ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-15 16:18     ` Peter Xu

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