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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Tomasz Torcz <tomek@pipebreaker.pl>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	usb-storage@lists.one-eyed-alien.net, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	Matthias Schwarzott <zzam@gentoo.org>,
	hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp, Mike Tsai <miketsai@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] usb-storage: Add quirk to defeat Kindle's automatic unload
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:07:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210318150723.GC527768@rowland.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YFNalS7Sl/l+zywM@mother.pipebreaker.pl>

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 02:50:13PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> Dnia Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 03:06:54PM -0400, Alan Stern napisał(a):
> > Matthias reports that the Amazon Kindle automatically removes its
> > emulated media if it doesn't receive another SCSI command within about
> > one second after a SYNCHRONIZE CACHE.  It does so even when the host
> > has sent a PREVENT MEDIUM REMOVAL command.  The reason for this
> > behavior isn't clear, although it's not hard to make some guesses.
> 
>   Could Kindle be fixed not to required such workaround? Is there a way
> to open a bug with Amazon?

You really should be asking people who work for Amazon.  I suspect that 
nobody who regularly reads this mailing list knows the answer.

(If you look through the MAINTAINERS file, you'll find there are a few 
kernel developers who do work for Amazon, or at least, have @amazon.com 
email addresses.  Try asking some of them.)

But even if the Kindle firmware gets changed (which I doubt will 
happen), we would still want to support all the old devices that aren't 
running the updated firmware.

Alan Stern

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-18 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-05 16:54 Amazon Kindle disconnect after Synchronize Cache Matthias Schwarzott
2021-03-05 19:14 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]   ` <CAL411-qf+c_CB4cL=2349QqCCYimOBCYxXbsOfLbvVYOg0294g@mail.gmail.com>
2021-03-06 16:07     ` Alan Stern
2021-03-07  5:58   ` Matthias Schwarzott
2021-03-07 15:52     ` Alan Stern
2021-03-07 16:52       ` Matthias Schwarzott
2021-03-07 16:58         ` Alan Stern
2021-03-08 21:59           ` Matthias Schwarzott
2021-03-09 15:50             ` [usb-storage] " Alan Stern
2021-03-10 20:56               ` Matthias Schwarzott
2021-03-10 21:46                 ` Alan Stern
2021-03-11  6:05                   ` Matthias Schwarzott
2021-03-11 14:39                     ` Alan Stern
2021-03-16  5:26                       ` Matthias Schwarzott
2021-03-16 16:26                         ` Alan Stern
2021-03-16 16:43                           ` [systemd-devel] " Hans de Goede
2021-03-16 17:04                             ` Alan Stern
2021-03-16 21:52                               ` Matthias Schwarzott
2021-03-17 12:21                               ` Hans de Goede
2021-03-17 15:17                                 ` Alan Stern
2021-03-17 16:47                                   ` Lennart Poettering
     [not found]                                     ` <F279F9BC020000F5AE14D9EC@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
     [not found]                                       ` <C63C44570200006665972EEF@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
     [not found]                                         ` <B960C12A020000A667ECE9F9@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
     [not found]                                           ` <B72C58530200001565972EEF@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
     [not found]                                             ` <0F2319EB020000F567ECE9F9@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
     [not found]                                               ` <DE3F57520200009E65972EEF@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
     [not found]                                                 ` <52CC0074020000A3D68BC3D5@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
2021-03-18  7:03                                                   ` Antw: [EXT] " Ulrich Windl
2021-03-18 14:59                                                     ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                                 ` <474C42CD02000091AE14D9EC@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
2021-03-18  7:04                                                   ` Ulrich Windl
     [not found]                                                   ` <D43A6F56020000F865972EEF@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
2021-03-18  7:10                                                     ` Antw: [EXT] [systemd-devel] [PATCH] usb-storage: Add quirk to defeat Kindle's automatic unload Ulrich Windl
2021-03-18 15:03                                                       ` Alan Stern
2021-03-17 17:56                                   ` [systemd-devel] [usb-storage] Re: Amazon Kindle disconnect after Synchronize Cache Matthias Schwarzott
2021-03-17 18:31                                     ` Hans de Goede
2021-03-17 19:06                                     ` [PATCH] usb-storage: Add quirk to defeat Kindle's automatic unload Alan Stern
2021-03-18 11:39                                       ` Hans de Goede
2021-03-18 13:50                                       ` [systemd-devel] " Tomasz Torcz
2021-03-18 15:07                                         ` Alan Stern [this message]
2021-03-16 21:43                           ` [usb-storage] Re: Amazon Kindle disconnect after Synchronize Cache Matthias Schwarzott

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