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From: Felix Moessbauer <felix.moessbauer@siemens.com>
To: longman@redhat.com
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	corbet@lwn.net, frederic@kernel.org, guro@fb.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
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	peterz@infradead.org, shuah@kernel.org, tj@kernel.org,
	jan.kiszka@siemens.com, henning.schild@siemens.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] cgroup/cpuset: Add new cpuset partition type & empty effecitve cpus
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 12:13:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211110111357.17617-1-felix.moessbauer@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211018143619.205065-1-longman@redhat.com>

Hi Weiman,

> v8:
>  - Reorganize the patch series and rationalize the features and
>    constraints of a partition.
>  - Update patch descriptions and documentation accordingly.
> 
> v7:
>  - Simplify the documentation patch (patch 5) as suggested by Tejun.
>  - Fix a typo in patch 2 and improper commit log in patch 3.
> 
> v6:
>  - Remove duplicated tmpmask from update_prstate() which should fix the
>    frame size too large problem reported by kernel test robot.
> 
> This patchset makes four enhancements to the cpuset v2 code.
> 
>  Patch 1: Enable partition with no task to have empty cpuset.cpus.effective.
> 
>  Patch 2: Refining the features and constraints of a cpuset partition
>  clarifying what changes are allowed.
>
>  Patch 3: Add a new partition state "isolated" to create a partition
>  root without load balancing. This is for handling intermitten workloads
>  that have a strict low latency requirement.


I just tested this patch-series and can confirm that it works on 5.15.0-rc7-rt15 (PREEMT_RT).

However, I was not able to see any latency improvements when using
cpuset.cpus.partition=isolated.
The test was performed with jitterdebugger on CPUs 1-3 and the following cmdline:
rcu_nocbs=1-4 nohz_full=1-4 irqaffinity=0,5-6,11 intel_pstate=disable
On the other cpus, stress-ng was executed to generate load.

Just some more general notes:

Even with this new "isolated" type, it is still very tricky to get a similar
behavior as with isolcpus (as long as I don't miss something here):

Consider an RT application that consists of a non-rt thread that should be floating
and a rt-thread that should be placed in the isolated domain.
This requires cgroup.type=threaded on both cgroups and changes to the application
(threads have to be born in non-rt group and moved to rt-group).

Theoretically, this could be done externally, but in case the application sets the
affinity mask manually, you run into a timing issue (setting affinities to CPUs
outside the current cpuset.cpus results in EINVAL).

Best regards,
Felix Moessbauer
Siemens AG

> Patch 4: Enable the "cpuset.cpus.partition" file to show the reason
>  that causes invalid partition like "root invalid (No cpu available
>  due to hotplug)".
> 
> Patch 5 updates the cgroup-v2.rst file accordingly. Patch 6 adds a new
> cpuset test to test the new cpuset partition code.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-10 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-18 14:36 [PATCH v8 0/6] cgroup/cpuset: Add new cpuset partition type & empty effecitve cpus Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] cgroup/cpuset: Allow no-task partition to have empty cpuset.cpus.effective Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36   ` Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] cgroup/cpuset: Refining features and constraints of a partition Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36   ` Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] cgroup/cpuset: Add a new isolated cpus.partition type Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] cgroup/cpuset: Show invalid partition reason string Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] cgroup/cpuset: Update description of cpuset.cpus.partition in cgroup-v2.rst Waiman Long
2021-11-15 19:31   ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-15 19:31     ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-15 20:11     ` Tejun Heo
2021-11-15 20:11       ` Tejun Heo
2021-11-15 21:27       ` Waiman Long
2021-11-15 21:27         ` Waiman Long
2021-11-15 21:10     ` Waiman Long
2021-11-16 17:54       ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-30 15:35         ` Waiman Long
2021-11-30 17:11           ` Tejun Heo
2021-11-30 17:11             ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-01  3:56             ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 14:13               ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-01 14:13                 ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-01 14:56                 ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 14:56                   ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 16:39                   ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-01 17:49                     ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 17:49                       ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 14:26               ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 14:26                 ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 16:46               ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-01 16:46                 ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-01 18:05                 ` Waiman Long
2021-12-02  1:28                   ` Waiman Long
2021-12-03 18:25                     ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-03 18:25                       ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-03 19:27                       ` Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] kselftest/cgroup: Add cpuset v2 partition root state test Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36   ` Waiman Long
2021-10-27 23:05 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] cgroup/cpuset: Add new cpuset partition type & empty effecitve cpus Waiman Long
2021-11-10 11:13 ` Felix Moessbauer [this message]
2021-11-10 13:21   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 13:56   ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-10 15:21     ` Moessbauer, Felix
2021-11-10 15:21       ` Moessbauer, Felix
2021-11-10 16:10       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 16:10         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 16:14         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 16:14           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 16:15         ` Jan Kiszka
2021-11-10 16:15           ` Jan Kiszka
2021-11-10 17:29           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 17:29             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 18:30             ` Waiman Long
2021-11-10 18:30               ` Waiman Long
2021-11-10 17:52           ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-10 17:52             ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-10 18:04             ` Jan Kiszka
2021-11-10 18:04               ` Jan Kiszka
2021-11-10 18:15       ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-10 18:15         ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-10 15:20   ` Waiman Long

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