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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Alli <allison.henderson@oracle.com>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v2 01/18] xfs: Fix multi-transaction larp replay
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2022 10:54:38 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220816005438.GT3600936@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f85ae9d8425aaff455301b28af32ba0d813f733b.camel@oracle.com>

On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 06:55:16PM -0700, Alli wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-08-10 at 16:12 +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 09, 2022 at 10:01:49PM -0700, Alli wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2022-08-10 at 11:58 +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Aug 09, 2022 at 09:52:55AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 12:39:56PM -0700, Allison Henderson
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Recent parent pointer testing has exposed a bug in the
> > > > > > underlying
> > > > > > attr replay.  A multi transaction replay currently performs a
> > > > > > single step of the replay, then deferrs the rest if there is
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > to do.
> > > > 
> > > > Yup.
> > > > 
> > > > > > This causes race conditions with other attr replays that
> > > > > > might be recovered before the remaining deferred work has had
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > chance to finish.
> > > > 
> > > > What other attr replays are we racing against?  There can only be
> > > > one incomplete attr item intent/done chain per inode present in
> > > > log
> > > > recovery, right?
> > > No, a rename queues up a set and remove before committing the
> > > transaction.  One for the new parent pointer, and another to remove
> > > the
> > > old one.
> > 
> > Ah. That really needs to be described in the commit message -
> > changing from "single intent chain per object" to "multiple
> > concurrent independent and unserialised intent chains per object" is
> > a pretty important design rule change...
> > 
> > The whole point of intents is to allow complex, multi-stage
> > operations on a single object to be sequenced in a tightly
> > controlled manner. They weren't intended to be run as concurrent
> > lines of modification on single items; if you need to do two
> > modifications on an object, the intent chain ties the two
> > modifications together into a single whole.
> > 
> > One of the reasons I rewrote the attr state machine for LARP was to
> > enable new multiple attr operation chains to be easily build from
> > the entry points the state machien provides. Parent attr rename
> > needs a new intent chain to be built, not run multiple independent
> > intent chains for each modification.
> > 
> > > It cant be an attr replace because technically the names are
> > > different.
> > 
> > I disagree - we have all the pieces we need in the state machine
> > already, we just need to define separate attr names for the
> > remove and insert steps in the attr intent.
> > 
> > That is, the "replace" operation we execute when an attr set
> > overwrites the value is "technically" a "replace value" operation,
> > but we actually implement it as a "replace entire attribute"
> > operation.
> > 
> > Without LARP, we do that overwrite in independent steps via an
> > intermediate INCOMPLETE state to allow two xattrs of the same name
> > to exist in the attr tree at the same time. IOWs, the attr value
> > overwrite is effectively a "set-swap-remove" operation on two
> > entirely independent xattrs, ensuring that if we crash we always
> > have either the old or new xattr visible.
> > 
> > With LARP, we can remove the original attr first, thereby avoiding
> > the need for two versions of the xattr to exist in the tree in the
> > first place. However, we have to do these two operations as a pair
> > of linked independent operations. The intent chain provides the
> > linking, and requires us to log the name and the value of the attr
> > that we are overwriting in the intent. Hence we can always recover
> > the modification to completion no matter where in the operation we
> > fail.
> > 
> > When it comes to a parent attr rename operation, we are effectively
> > doing two linked operations - remove the old attr, set the new attr
> > - on different attributes. Implementation wise, it is exactly the
> > same sequence as a "replace value" operation, except for the fact
> > that the new attr we add has a different name.
> > 
> > Hence the only real difference between the existing "attr replace"
> > and the intent chain we need for "parent attr rename" is that we
> > have to log two attr names instead of one. 
> 
> To be clear, this would imply expanding xfs_attri_log_format to have
> another alfi_new_name_len feild and another iovec for the attr intent
> right?  Does that cause issues to change the on disk log layout after
> the original has merged?  Or is that ok for things that are still
> experimental? Thanks!

I think we can get away with this quite easily without breaking the
existing experimental code.

struct xfs_attri_log_format {
        uint16_t        alfi_type;      /* attri log item type */
        uint16_t        alfi_size;      /* size of this item */
        uint32_t        __pad;          /* pad to 64 bit aligned */
        uint64_t        alfi_id;        /* attri identifier */
        uint64_t        alfi_ino;       /* the inode for this attr operation */
        uint32_t        alfi_op_flags;  /* marks the op as a set or remove */
        uint32_t        alfi_name_len;  /* attr name length */
        uint32_t        alfi_value_len; /* attr value length */
        uint32_t        alfi_attr_filter;/* attr filter flags */
};

We have a padding field in there that is currently all zeros. Let's
make that a count of the number of {name, value} tuples that are
appended to the format. i.e.

struct xfs_attri_log_name {
        uint32_t        alfi_op_flags;  /* marks the op as a set or remove */
        uint32_t        alfi_name_len;  /* attr name length */
        uint32_t        alfi_value_len; /* attr value length */
        uint32_t        alfi_attr_filter;/* attr filter flags */
};

struct xfs_attri_log_format {
        uint16_t        alfi_type;      /* attri log item type */
        uint16_t        alfi_size;      /* size of this item */
	uint8_t		alfi_attr_cnt;	/* count of name/val pairs */
        uint8_t		__pad1;          /* pad to 64 bit aligned */
        uint16_t	__pad2;          /* pad to 64 bit aligned */
        uint64_t        alfi_id;        /* attri identifier */
        uint64_t        alfi_ino;       /* the inode for this attr operation */
	struct xfs_attri_log_name alfi_attr[]; /* attrs to operate on */
};

Basically, the size and shape of the structure has not changed, and
if alfi_attr_cnt == 0 we just treat it as if alfi_attr_cnt == 1 as
the backwards compat code for the existing code.

And then we just have as many followup regions for name/val pairs
as are defined by the alfi_attr_cnt and alfi_attr[] parts of the
structure. Each attr can have a different operation performed on
them, and they can have different filters applied so they can exist
in different namespaces, too.

SO I don't think we need a new on-disk feature bit for this
enhancement - it definitely comes under the heading of "this stuff
is experimental, this is the sort of early structure revision that
EXPERIMENTAL is supposed to cover....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-16  4:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-04 19:39 [PATCH RESEND v2 00/18] Parent Pointers Allison Henderson
2022-08-04 19:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 01/18] xfs: Fix multi-transaction larp replay Allison Henderson
2022-08-09 16:52   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-10  1:58     ` Dave Chinner
2022-08-10  5:01       ` Alli
2022-08-10  6:12         ` Dave Chinner
2022-08-10 15:52           ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-10 19:28             ` Alli
2022-08-12  1:55           ` Alli
2022-08-12  3:05             ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-16  0:54             ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2022-08-16  5:07               ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-16 20:41                 ` Alli
2022-08-19  1:05                   ` Alli
2022-08-23 15:07                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-24 18:47                       ` Alli
2022-08-10  3:08     ` Alli
2022-08-04 19:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 02/18] xfs: Increase XFS_DEFER_OPS_NR_INODES to 5 Allison Henderson
2022-08-09 16:38   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-10  3:07     ` Alli
2022-08-04 19:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 03/18] xfs: Hold inode locks in xfs_ialloc Allison Henderson
2022-08-04 19:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 04/18] xfs: Hold inode locks in xfs_trans_alloc_dir Allison Henderson
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 05/18] xfs: get directory offset when adding directory name Allison Henderson
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 06/18] xfs: get directory offset when removing " Allison Henderson
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 07/18] xfs: get directory offset when replacing a " Allison Henderson
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 08/18] xfs: add parent pointer support to attribute code Allison Henderson
2022-08-09 16:54   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-10  3:08     ` Alli
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 09/18] xfs: define parent pointer xattr format Allison Henderson
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 10/18] xfs: Add xfs_verify_pptr Allison Henderson
2022-08-09 16:59   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-10  3:08     ` Alli
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 11/18] xfs: extend transaction reservations for parent attributes Allison Henderson
2022-08-09 17:48   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-10  3:08     ` Alli
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 12/18] xfs: parent pointer attribute creation Allison Henderson
2022-08-09 18:01   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-09 18:13     ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-10  3:09       ` Alli
2022-08-10  3:08     ` Alli
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 13/18] xfs: add parent attributes to link Allison Henderson
2022-08-09 18:43   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-10  3:09     ` Alli
2022-09-23 20:25       ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 14/18] xfs: remove parent pointers in unlink Allison Henderson
2022-08-09 18:45   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-10  3:09     ` Alli
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 15/18] xfs: Add parent pointers to rename Allison Henderson
2022-08-09 18:49   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-10  3:09     ` Alli
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 16/18] xfs: Add the parent pointer support to the superblock version 5 Allison Henderson
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 17/18] xfs: Add helper function xfs_attr_list_context_init Allison Henderson
2022-08-04 19:40 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 18/18] xfs: Add parent pointer ioctl Allison Henderson
2022-08-09 19:26   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-10  3:09     ` Alli
2022-09-24  0:01       ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-09 22:55 ` [RFC PATCH 19/18] xfs: fix unit conversion error in xfs_log_calc_max_attrsetm_res Darrick J. Wong
2022-08-09 22:56 ` [RFC PATCH 20/18] xfs: drop compatibility minimum log size computations for reflink Darrick J. Wong

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