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From: Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@gmail.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: "Serge Semin" <Sergey.Semin@baikalelectronics.ru>,
	"Gustavo Pimentel" <gustavo.pimentel@synopsys.com>,
	"Vinod Koul" <vkoul@kernel.org>, "Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	"Cai Huoqing" <cai.huoqing@linux.dev>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Jingoo Han" <jingoohan1@gmail.com>,
	"Frank Li" <Frank.Li@nxp.com>,
	"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	"Alexey Malahov" <Alexey.Malahov@baikalelectronics.ru>,
	"Pavel Parkhomenko" <Pavel.Parkhomenko@baikalelectronics.ru>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	caihuoqing <caihuoqing@baidu.com>,
	"Yoshihiro Shimoda" <yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, dmaengine@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 24/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Relax driver config settings
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 17:49:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230124144941.42zpgj2p53nvfz36@mobilestation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230123164339.GA892847@bhelgaas>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 10:43:39AM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 03:11:16AM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 04:50:36PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 08:14:06PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> > > > Since the DW PCIe RP/EP driver is about to be updated to register the DW
> > > > eDMA-based DMA-engine the drivers build modes must be synchronized.
> > > > Currently the DW PCIe RP/EP driver is always built as a builtin module.
> > > > Meanwhile the DW eDMA driver can be built as a loadable module. Thus in
> > > > the later case the kernel with DW PCIe controllers support will fail to be
> > > > linked due to lacking the DW eDMA probe/remove symbols. At the same time
> > > > forcibly selecting the DW eDMA driver from the DW PCIe RP/EP kconfig will
> > > > effectively eliminate the tristate type of the former driver fixing it to
> > > > just the builtin kernel module.
> > > > 
> > > > Seeing the DW eDMA engine isn't that often met built into the DW PCIe
> > > > Root-ports and End-points let's convert the DW eDMA driver config to being
> > > > more flexible instead of just forcibly selecting the DW eDMA kconfig. In
> > > > order to do that first the DW eDMA PCIe driver config should be converted
> > > > to being depended from the DW eDMA core config instead of selecting the
> > > > one. Second the DW eDMA probe and remove symbols should be referenced only
> > > > if they are reachable by the caller. Thus the user will be able to build
> > > > the DW eDMA core driver with any type, meanwhile the dependent code will
> > > > be either restricted to the same build type (e.g. DW eDMA PCIe driver if
> > > > DW eDMA driver is built as a loadable module) or just won't be able to use
> > > > the eDMA engine registration/de-registration functionality (e.g. DW PCIe
> > > > RP/EP driver if DW eDMA driver is built as a loadable module).
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to write the merge commit log, and I understand the linking
> > > issue, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what the user-visible
> > > scenarios are here.
> > > 
> > > I assume there's something that works when CONFIG_PCIE_DW=y and
> > > CONFIG_DW_EDMA_PCIE=y but does *not* work when CONFIG_PCIE_DW=y and
> > > CONFIG_DW_EDMA_PCIE=m?
> > 
> > No. The DW eDMA code availability (in other words the CONFIG_DW_EDMA
> > config value) determines whether the corresponding driver (DW PCIe
> > RP/EP or DW eDMA PCI) is capable to perform the eDMA engine probe
> > procedure. Additionally both drivers has the opposite dependency from
> > the DW eDMA code.
> > |                |     DW PCIe RP/EP    |     DW eDMA PCIe     |
> > | CONFIG_DW_EDMA +----------------------+----------------------+
> > |                | Probe eDMA | KConfig | Probe eDMA | Kconfig |
> > +----------------+------------+---------+------------+---------+
> > |        y       |     YES    |   y,n   |     YES    |  y,m,n  |
> > |        m       |     NO     |   y,n   |     YES    |    m,n  |
> > |        n       |     NO     |   y,n   |     NO     |      n  |
> > +--------------------------------------------------------------+
> > 
> > Basically it means the DW PCIe RP/EP driver will be able to probe the
> > DW eDMA engine only if the corresponding driver is built into the
> > kernel. At the same time the DW PCIe RP/EP driver doesn't depend on
> > the DW eDMA core module config state. The DW eDMA PCIe driver in
> > opposite depends on the DW eDMA code config state, but will always be
> > able to probe the DW eDMA engine as long as the corresponding code is
> > loaded as either a part of the kernel or as a loadable module.
> > 
> > > If both scenarios worked the same, I would think the existing
> > > dw_edma_pcie_probe() would be enough, and you wouldn't need to call
> > > dw_pcie_edma_detect() from dw_pcie_host_init() and dw_pcie_ep_init().
> > 
> > No. These methods have been implemented for the absolutely different
> > drivers.
> > dw_edma_pcie_probe() is called for an end-point PCIe-device found on a
> > PCIe-bus.
> > dw_pcie_host_init()/dw_pcie_ep_init() and dw_pcie_edma_detect() are
> > called for a platform-device representing a DW PCIe RP/EP controller.
> > In other words dw_pcie_edma_detect() and dw_edma_pcie_probe() are in
> > no means interchangeable.
> 

> The question is what the user-visible difference between
> CONFIG_DW_EDMA_PCIE=y and CONFIG_DW_EDMA_PCIE=m is. 

There will be no difference between them after this commit is applied
from the DW eDMA core driver point of view. CONFIG_DW_EDMA_PCIE now
depends on the CONFIG_DW_EDMA config state (see it's surrounded by
if/endif in the Kconfig file). Without this patch the
CONFIG_DW_EDMA_PCIE config determines the CONFIG_DW_EDMA config state
by forcibly selecting the one. Using the similar approach for the
CONFIG_PCIE_DW driver I found less attractive because it would have
effectively converted the CONFIG_DW_EDMA config tristate to boolean.

That's why instead I decided to convert the CONFIG_DW_EDMA config to
being independent from any other config value. (See the table in the
my previous email message.)

> If there were no
> difference, dw_pcie_host_init() would not need to call
> dw_pcie_edma_detect().

Even if CONFIG_DW_EDMA (not CONFIG_DW_EDMA_PCIE) is set to m or n I
would have still recommended to call dw_pcie_edma_detect() because the
method performs the DW eDMA engine auto-detection independently from the DW
eDMA driver availability. As a result the system log will have a
number of eDMA detected channels if the engine was really found. It's
up to the system administrator to make sure that the eDMA driver is
properly built/loaded then for the engine to be actually available in
the kernel/system.

> 
> Can you give me a one- or two-sentence merge commit comment that
> explains why we want to merge this?  "Relax driver config settings"
> doesn't tell us that.

"Convert the DW eDMA kconfig to being independently selected by the
user in order to preserve the module build options flexibility and fix
the "undefined reference to" error on DW PCIe driver build."

-Serge(y)

> 
> Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-24 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-13 17:13 [PATCH v9 00/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Add RP/EP local DMA controllers support Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 01/27] dmaengine: Fix dma_slave_config.dst_addr description Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 02/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Release requested IRQs on failure Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 03/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Convert ll/dt phys-address to PCIe bus/DMA address Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 04/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Fix missing src/dst address of the interleaved xfers Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 05/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Don't permit non-inc " Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 06/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Fix invalid interleaved xfers semantics Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 07/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Add CPU to PCIe bus address translation Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 08/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Add PCIe bus address getter to the remote EP glue-driver Serge Semin
2023-01-20 23:29   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-21 20:37     ` Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 09/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Drop chancnt initialization Serge Semin
2023-01-20 23:54   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-21 21:10     ` Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 10/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Fix DebugFS reg entry type Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 11/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Stop checking debugfs_create_*() return value Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 12/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Add dw_edma prefix to the DebugFS nodes descriptor Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 13/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Convert DebugFS descs to being kz-allocated Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 14/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Rename DebugFS dentry variables to 'dent' Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 15/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Simplify the DebugFS context CSRs init procedure Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 16/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Move eDMA data pointer to DebugFS node descriptor Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:13 ` [PATCH v9 17/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Join Write/Read channels into a single device Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:14 ` [PATCH v9 18/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Use DMA-engine device DebugFS subdirectory Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:14 ` [PATCH v9 19/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Use non-atomic io-64 methods Serge Semin
2023-01-21  0:54   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-21 23:03     ` Serge Semin
2023-01-23 16:37       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-24 13:44         ` Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:14 ` [PATCH v9 20/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Drop DT-region allocation Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:14 ` [PATCH v9 21/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Replace chip ID number with device name Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:14 ` [PATCH v9 22/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Skip cleanup procedure if no private data found Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:14 ` [PATCH v9 23/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Add mem-mapped LL-entries support Serge Semin
2023-02-21 23:00   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-02-22 16:16     ` Vinod Koul
2023-01-13 17:14 ` [PATCH v9 24/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Relax driver config settings Serge Semin
2023-01-20 22:50   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-22  0:11     ` Serge Semin
2023-01-23 16:43       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-24 14:49         ` Serge Semin [this message]
2023-01-24 23:47           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-25 14:40             ` Serge Semin
2023-01-25 23:23               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-26 16:37                 ` Serge Semin
2023-01-26 18:19                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-26 21:16                     ` Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:14 ` [PATCH v9 25/27] PCI: dwc: Set coherent DMA-mask on MSI-address allocation Serge Semin
2023-01-20 21:59   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-22  0:34     ` Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:14 ` [PATCH v9 26/27] PCI: bt1: Set 64-bit DMA-mask Serge Semin
2023-01-13 17:14 ` [PATCH v9 27/27] PCI: dwc: Add DW eDMA engine support Serge Semin
2023-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH v9 00/27] dmaengine: dw-edma: Add RP/EP local DMA controllers support Serge Semin
2023-01-16  9:52 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-01-16 11:29   ` Serge Semin
2023-01-20 15:17 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi

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