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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, io-uring@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, dsingh@ddn.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] fs: add FMODE_DIO_PARALLEL_WRITE flag
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:36:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230414153612.GB360881@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZDjggMCGautPUDpW@infradead.org>

On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:11:28PM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 09:40:29AM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > fuse_direct_write_iter():
> > 
> > bool exclusive_lock =
> >     !(ff->open_flags & FOPEN_PARALLEL_DIRECT_WRITES) ||
> >     iocb->ki_flags & IOCB_APPEND ||
> >     fuse_direct_write_extending_i_size(iocb, from);
> > 
> > If the write is size extending, then it will take the lock exclusive.
> > OTOH, I guess that it would be unusual for lots of  size extending
> > writes to be done in parallel.
> > 
> > What would be the effect of giving the  FMODE_DIO_PARALLEL_WRITE hint
> > and then still serializing the writes?
> 
> I have no idea how this flags work, but XFS also takes i_rwsem
> exclusively for appends, when the positions and size aren't aligned to
> the block size, and a few other cases.

IIUC uring wants to avoid the situation where someone sends 300 writes
to the same file, all of which end up in background workers, and all of
which then contend on exclusive i_rwsem.  Hence it has some hashing
scheme that executes io requests serially if they hash to the same value
(which iirc is the inode number?) to prevent resource waste.

This flag turns off that hashing behavior on the assumption that each of
those 300 writes won't serialize on the other 299 writes, hence it's ok
to start up 300 workers.

(apologies for precoffee garbled response)

--D

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-14 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-07 17:20 [PATCHSET for-next 0/2] Flag file systems as supporting parallel dio writes Jens Axboe
2023-03-07 17:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs: add FMODE_DIO_PARALLEL_WRITE flag Jens Axboe
2023-04-12 13:40   ` Bernd Schubert
2023-04-12 13:43     ` Bernd Schubert
2023-04-13  7:40     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-04-13  9:25       ` Bernd Schubert
2023-04-14  5:11       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-14 15:36         ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2023-04-15 13:15           ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-18 12:42             ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-04-18 12:55               ` Bernd Schubert
2023-04-18 22:13                 ` Dave Chinner
2023-04-19  1:28                   ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-16  5:54           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-19  1:29             ` Jens Axboe
2023-03-07 17:20 ` [PATCH 2/2] io_uring: avoid hashing O_DIRECT writes if the filesystem doesn't need it Jens Axboe
2023-03-15 17:40 ` [PATCHSET for-next 0/2] Flag file systems as supporting parallel dio writes Jens Axboe
2023-03-16  4:29   ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-03-17  2:53     ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-03 12:24 ` Christian Brauner

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