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From: Teng Long <dyroneteng@gmail.com>
To: code@khaugsbakk.name
Cc: avarab@gmail.com, dyroneteng@gmail.com, git@vger.kernel.org,
	gitster@pobox.com, sunshine@sunshineco.com,
	tenglong.tl@alibaba-inc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 4/6] notes.c: introduce '--separator=<paragraph-break>' option
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 12:07:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230512040746.2069-1-tenglong.tl@alibaba-inc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2908b005-9478-4c59-ae8e-150be44a15a9@app.fastmail.com>

"Kristoffer Haugsbakk" <code@khaugsbakk.name> writes:

>I realize that this series is going to be merged to `master`.[1] I was
>trying out this new change since I might have some use for it when the
>next version is released.

I'm glad there are use cases for the topic.

>The test case[2] `append: specify an empty separator` demonstrates that
>`--separator=""` is the same as the default behavior, namely to add a
>blank line. It has (according to the commit messages) been like this
>since v5 of this patch.[3]
>
>v4 of this patch special-cased `--separator=""` to mean “no
>separator”. And this was the same behavior as the original
>`--no-blankline`,[4] which eventually mutated into `--separator`.
>
>Why was this changed to act the same as the default behavior (add a
>blank line)? I can’t seem to find a note for it on the cover letter of
>v5 or in the relevant replies.
>
>It seemed that v4 of this patch (with special-cased empty argument) was
>perhaps based on Eric Sunshine’s suggestion:[5]
>
>> Taking a step back, perhaps think of this in terms of "separator". The
>> default behavior is to insert "\n" as a separator between notes. If
>> you add a --separator option, then users could supply their own
>> separator, such as "----\n" or, in your case, "" to suppress the blank
>> line.
>
>(And then reiterated in a v4 email [6])

There is indeed this change in the process, I did not express it clearly in the
patch, sorry,  allow me to explain it:

Initially, I wanted to support separator insertion with --[no-]blankline. It was
intuitive and clear in logic. If it is specified as --blankline, newline would
be append, if it is --no-blankline, newline would not be append, and --blankline
would be the default behavior.

The problem with this is that "blankline" might not be a good name because it
doesn't seem to express the meaning of the separator or paragraph-break, and
since we're going to support separators, it might be more thorough to support a
custom separator, which is a better solution I think.

Returning to the issue of -separator = "", my thought is that I want
--separator="" to behave the same way as
--separator="<any-string-without-a-trailing-\n'>" when deals a string which does
not contains a trailing newline. This will eliminate one more implicit logic and
make behavior more consistent.

>Was the idea perhaps to eventually (separately) add a separate option
>which functions like `--each-message-is-line-not-paragraph`, like what
>was mentioned in [7]?

I think --no-separator maybe a better name, means that not any separator will be
append between two paragraphs even a newline.

Thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-12  4:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 186+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-13  5:56 [RFC PATCH 0/2] notes.c: introduce "--no-blankline" option Teng Long
2022-10-13  5:56 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] " Teng Long
2022-10-13  6:06   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-17 13:19     ` Teng Long
2022-10-13  9:31   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-17 13:33     ` Teng Long
2022-10-13  5:56 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] notes.c: fixed tip when target and append note are both empty Teng Long
2022-10-13  9:36   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-13 10:10     ` Phillip Wood
2022-10-13 10:23       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-15 19:40         ` Phillip Wood
2022-10-18  3:25       ` Teng Long
2022-10-18  8:08       ` Teng Long
2022-10-18  3:11     ` Teng Long
2022-10-18  9:23       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] notes.c: introduce "--blank-line" option Teng Long
2022-11-07 13:57   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] " Teng Long
2022-11-07 14:45     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 15:45       ` Eric Sunshine
2022-11-07 17:22         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:46           ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-07 22:36             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-08  0:32               ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-08  3:45       ` Teng Long
2022-11-08 13:06       ` Teng Long
2022-11-08 13:22         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09  6:35           ` Teng Long
2022-11-07 15:06     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-08  6:32       ` Teng Long
2022-11-07 21:47     ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-08  7:36       ` Teng Long
2022-11-07 13:57   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] notes.c: fixed tip when target and append note are both empty Teng Long
2022-11-07 14:40     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:51       ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-07 22:33         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 22:45           ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-08  8:55           ` Teng Long
2022-11-07 13:57   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] notes.c: drop unreachable code in "append_edit()" Teng Long
2022-11-07 14:41     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 14:57   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] notes.c: introduce "--blank-line" option Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09  7:05     ` Teng Long
2022-11-09  7:06     ` Teng Long
2022-11-09  9:06   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] notes.c: introduce "--no-blank-line" option Teng Long
2022-11-09  9:06     ` [PATCH v3 1/5] notes.c: cleanup 'strbuf_grow' call in 'append_edit' Teng Long
2022-11-09  9:06     ` [PATCH v3 2/5] notes.c: cleanup for "designated init" and "char ptr init" Teng Long
2022-11-09  9:06     ` [PATCH v3 3/5] notes.c: drop unreachable code in 'append_edit()' Teng Long
2022-11-09  9:06     ` [PATCH v3 4/5] notes.c: provide tips when target and append note are both empty Teng Long
2022-11-09  9:06     ` [PATCH v3 5/5] notes.c: introduce "--no-blank-line" option Teng Long
2022-11-28 14:20     ` [PATCH v3 0/5] " Teng Long
2022-11-29  1:10       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-29 22:53         ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-29 12:57     ` Teng Long
2022-11-29 13:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-15 12:48         ` Teng Long
2022-12-19  3:03           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-12-21  9:16             ` Teng Long
2022-12-21 11:35               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-22  9:30             ` Teng Long
2022-12-23  1:36               ` Eric Sunshine
2023-01-12  2:48     ` [PATCH v4 0/5] notes.c: introduce "--separator" optio Teng Long
2023-01-12  2:48       ` [PATCH v4 1/5] notes.c: cleanup 'strbuf_grow' call in 'append_edit' Teng Long
2023-01-15  4:53         ` Eric Sunshine
2023-01-28 11:22           ` Teng Long
2023-01-12  2:48       ` [PATCH v4 2/5] notes.c: cleanup for "designated init" and "char ptr init" Teng Long
2023-01-12  9:51         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-01-28 11:33           ` Teng Long
2023-01-12  2:48       ` [PATCH v4 3/5] notes.c: drop unreachable code in 'append_edit()' Teng Long
2023-01-15 20:59         ` Eric Sunshine
2023-01-15 21:10           ` Eric Sunshine
2023-01-28 11:50           ` Teng Long
2023-01-30  5:38             ` Eric Sunshine
2023-02-01  8:08               ` Teng Long
2023-01-12  2:48       ` [PATCH v4 4/5] notes.c: provide tips when target and append note are both empty Teng Long
2023-01-12  9:52         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-01-15 21:28         ` Eric Sunshine
2023-01-12  2:48       ` [PATCH v4 5/5] notes.c: introduce "--separator" option Teng Long
2023-01-12  9:53         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-01-15 22:04           ` Eric Sunshine
2023-01-15 22:15         ` Eric Sunshine
2023-02-16 13:05       ` [PATCH v5 0/3] " Teng Long
2023-02-16 13:05         ` [PATCH v5 1/3] notes.c: cleanup 'strbuf_grow' call in 'append_edit' Teng Long
2023-02-16 18:39           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-20  3:34             ` Teng Long
2023-02-16 13:05         ` [PATCH v5 2/3] notes.c: cleanup for "designated init" Teng Long
2023-02-16 18:39           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-16 13:05         ` [PATCH v5 3/3] notes.c: introduce "--separator" option Teng Long
2023-02-16 23:22           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-20 14:00             ` Teng Long
2023-02-21 21:31               ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-22  8:17                 ` Teng Long
2023-02-22 23:15                   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-23  7:29         ` [PATCH v6 0/3] " Teng Long
2023-02-23  7:29           ` [PATCH v6 1/3] notes.c: cleanup 'strbuf_grow' call in 'append_edit' Teng Long
2023-02-23  7:29           ` [PATCH v6 2/3] notes.c: cleanup for "designated init" Teng Long
2023-02-23  7:29           ` [PATCH v6 3/3] notes.c: introduce '--separator=<paragraph-break>' option Teng Long
2023-02-23 18:21             ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-28 14:11               ` Teng Long
2023-02-25 21:30             ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-28 14:14               ` Teng Long
2023-03-27 13:13           ` [PATCH v6 0/3] notes.c: introduce "--separator" option Teng Long
2023-03-28 14:28           ` [PATCH v7 0/4] " Teng Long
2023-03-28 14:28             ` [PATCH v7 1/4] notes.c: cleanup 'strbuf_grow' call in 'append_edit' Teng Long
2023-03-28 14:28             ` [PATCH v7 2/4] notes.c: cleanup for "designated init" Teng Long
2023-03-29 22:17               ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-28 14:28             ` [PATCH v7 3/4] notes.c: introduce '--separator=<paragraph-break>' option Teng Long
2023-03-28 15:37               ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-29 14:15                 ` Teng Long
2023-03-29 21:48                   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-13  9:36                     ` Teng Long
2023-03-28 14:28             ` [PATCH v7 4/4] notes.c: don't do stripespace when parse file arg Teng Long
2023-03-28 15:54               ` Junio C Hamano
2023-03-29 12:06                 ` Teng Long
2023-03-29 16:21                   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-25 13:34             ` [PATCH 0/6] notes.c: introduce "--separator" option Teng Long
2023-04-25 13:34               ` [PATCH v8 1/6] notes.c: cleanup 'strbuf_grow' call in 'append_edit' Teng Long
2023-04-25 13:34               ` [PATCH v8 2/6] notes.c: use designated initializers for clarity Teng Long
2023-04-25 13:34               ` [PATCH v8 3/6] t3321: add test cases about the notes stripspace behavior Teng Long
2023-04-25 16:25                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-27  3:47                   ` Teng Long
2023-04-25 13:34               ` [PATCH v8 4/6] notes.c: introduce '--separator=<paragraph-break>' option Teng Long
2023-04-25 17:34                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-27  7:21                   ` Teng Long
2023-04-27 18:21                     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-25 17:35                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-25 13:34               ` [PATCH v8 5/6] notes.c: append separator instead of insert by pos Teng Long
2023-04-25 17:47                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-27  7:51                   ` Teng Long
2023-04-25 13:34               ` [PATCH v8 6/6] notes.c: introduce "--[no-]stripspace" option Teng Long
2023-04-25 17:49                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-28  7:40                   ` Teng Long
2023-04-28 18:21                     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-28  9:23               ` [PATCH v9 0/6] notes.c: introduce "--separator" option Teng Long
2023-04-28  9:23                 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] notes.c: cleanup 'strbuf_grow' call in 'append_edit' Teng Long
2023-04-28  9:23                 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] notes.c: use designated initializers for clarity Teng Long
2023-04-28  9:23                 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] t3321: add test cases about the notes stripspace behavior Teng Long
2023-04-28  9:23                 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] notes.c: introduce '--separator=<paragraph-break>' option Teng Long
2023-04-28 20:44                   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-06  9:12                     ` Teng Long
2023-05-06  9:22                       ` Teng Long
2023-05-10 19:19                   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2023-05-12  4:07                     ` Teng Long [this message]
2023-05-12  7:29                       ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2023-05-16 17:00                       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-17  3:58                         ` Teng Long
2023-05-17 15:32                           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-14  1:02                   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-14  1:10                     ` [PATCH] notes: do not access before the beginning of an array Junio C Hamano
2023-06-14  1:41                     ` [PATCH v9 4/6] notes.c: introduce '--separator=<paragraph-break>' option Eric Sunshine
2023-06-14  2:07                       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-15  7:13                         ` Jeff King
2023-06-15 19:15                           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-19  6:08                             ` Teng Long
2023-06-20 20:36                               ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-21  2:50                                 ` Teng Long
2023-04-28  9:23                 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] notes.c: append separator instead of insert by pos Teng Long
2023-04-28  9:23                 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] notes.c: introduce "--[no-]stripspace" option Teng Long
2023-04-28 20:46                 ` [PATCH v9 0/6] notes.c: introduce "--separator" option Junio C Hamano
2023-05-01 22:29                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-18 12:02                 ` [PATCH v10 " Teng Long
2023-05-18 12:02                   ` [PATCH v10 1/6] notes.c: cleanup 'strbuf_grow' call in 'append_edit' Teng Long
2023-05-18 12:02                   ` [PATCH v10 2/6] notes.c: use designated initializers for clarity Teng Long
2023-05-18 12:02                   ` [PATCH v10 3/6] t3321: add test cases about the notes stripspace behavior Teng Long
2023-05-18 12:02                   ` [PATCH v10 4/6] notes.c: introduce '[--[no-]separator|--separator=<paragraph-break>]' option Teng Long
2023-05-18 14:34                     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2023-05-20 10:41                       ` Teng Long
2023-05-20 16:12                         ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2023-05-19  0:54                     ` Jeff King
2023-05-27  7:17                       ` Teng Long
2023-05-27 17:19                         ` Jeff King
2023-05-29 11:48                           ` Teng Long
2023-05-18 12:02                   ` [PATCH v10 5/6] notes.c: append separator instead of insert by pos Teng Long
2023-05-18 12:02                   ` [PATCH v10 6/6] notes.c: introduce "--[no-]stripspace" option Teng Long
2023-05-18 13:56                   ` [PATCH v10 0/6] notes.c: introduce "--separator" option Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2023-05-20 10:22                     ` Teng Long
2023-05-18 15:17                   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-20 10:59                     ` Teng Long
2023-05-27  7:57                   ` [PATCH v11 0/7] notes.c: introduce "--separator" Teng Long
2023-05-27  7:57                     ` [PATCH v11 1/7] notes.c: cleanup 'strbuf_grow' call in 'append_edit' Teng Long
2023-05-27  7:57                     ` [PATCH v11 2/7] notes.c: use designated initializers for clarity Teng Long
2023-05-27  7:57                     ` [PATCH v11 3/7] t3321: add test cases about the notes stripspace behavior Teng Long
2023-05-27  7:57                     ` [PATCH v11 4/7] notes.c: introduce '--separator=<paragraph-break>' option Teng Long
2023-05-27  7:57                     ` [PATCH v11 5/7] notes.c: append separator instead of insert by pos Teng Long
2023-05-27  7:57                     ` [PATCH v11 6/7] notes.c: introduce "--[no-]stripspace" option Teng Long
2023-05-27  7:57                     ` [PATCH v11 7/7] notes: introduce "--no-separator" option Teng Long
2023-06-01  5:50                     ` [PATCH v11 0/7] notes.c: introduce "--separator" Junio C Hamano
2023-06-03 10:01                       ` Teng Long

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