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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, ebiggers@kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	ardb@kernel.org, kraxel@redhat.com, philmd@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH qemu] x86: don't let decompressed kernel image clobber setup_data
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2022 20:33:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24908710-09f6-da2a-d821-58a81c572f6c@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y7B993P1+jYB/etX@zx2c4.com>



On 12/31/22 10:22, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 03:24:32PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 02:51:28PM +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
>>> That failure is unrelated to the ident mapping issue Peter and
>>> I discussed. The original failure is described in the commit message:
>>> decompression clobbers the data, so sd->next points to garbage.
>>
>> Right
> 
> So with that understanding confirmed, I'm confused at your surprise that
> hpa's unrelated fix to the different issue didn't fix this issue.
> 

If decompression does clobber the data, then we *also* need to figure 
out why that is. There are basically three possibilities:

1. If physical KASLR is NOT used:

	a. The boot loader doesn't honor the kernel safe area properly;
	b. Somewhere in the process a bug in the calculation of the
	   kernel safe area has crept in.

2. If physical KASLR IS used:

	The decompressor doesn't correctly keep track of nor relocate
	all the keep-out zones before picking a target address.

One is a bootloader bug, two is a kernel bug. My guess is (2) is the 
culprit, but (1b) should be checked, too.

	-hpa


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-01  4:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-28 14:38 [PATCH qemu] x86: don't let decompressed kernel image clobber setup_data Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-28 16:02 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2022-12-28 16:30   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-28 16:57     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-28 23:58       ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-12-29  2:13         ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-12-29  2:31         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-29  7:28           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2022-12-29  7:30           ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-12-29  7:31           ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-12-29 12:47             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-30 15:54               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-30 17:01                 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-30 17:07                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-30 19:54                     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-30 21:58                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-12-30 22:10                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-31  1:06                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-12-31  1:14                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-12-31 12:55                             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-31 13:40                             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-31 13:44                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-31 13:48                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-31 13:51                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-31 14:24                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-31 18:22                                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-31 19:00                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-01  3:21                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-01  3:31                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-01-02  6:01                                               ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-02  6:17                                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-02  9:32                                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-01-02 13:36                                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-02 15:03                                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-01-02  5:50                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-01  4:33                                         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2023-01-01  4:55                                           ` Mika Penttilä
2023-01-01  5:13                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-12-30 15:59             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-30 16:21               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-30 19:13               ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-12-31  9:48               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-31 12:54                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-31 13:35                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-31 13:42                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-30 18:30 ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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