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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	brauner@kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org, aarcange@redhat.com,
	lokeshgidra@google.com, peterx@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	hughd@google.com, mhocko@suse.com, axelrasmussen@google.com,
	rppt@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	jannh@google.com, zhangpeng362@huawei.com, bgeffon@google.com,
	kaleshsingh@google.com, ngeoffray@google.com, jdduke@google.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@android.com, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 5/5] selftests/mm: add UFFDIO_MOVE ioctl test
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 10:46:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3eadd79c-c02a-495f-92c0-0315046ef59f@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3240f4b5-081b-4075-851a-7d1cd86f4333@redhat.com>

On 12/11/23 08:32, David Hildenbrand wrote:
...
> That's an open question: do we want to be able to build selftests 
> against any host headers, and not the in-tree headers that have to be 
> manually installed and dirty the git tree?
> 
> One obvious drawbacks is that we'll have to deal with all that using a 
> bunch of #ifdef, and the tests that will be built+run will depend on the 
> host headers.
> 
> Especially the letter is relevant I think: Our upstream testing won't be 
> able to build+run tests that rely on new upstream features. But that's 
> what some key benefit of these selftests, and being able to run them 
> automatically on a bunch of different combinations upstream.
> 
> Further, the tests are closely related to the given kernel version, they 
> are not some completely separate tests.
> 
> 
> Moving the the (MM?) selftests to a separate repository would make the 
> decision easier: just like in QEMU etc, we'd simply pull in a headers 
> update and only build against these archived headers.
> 
> So I see the options:
> 
> (1) Rely on installing the proper in-tree headers. Build will fail if
>      that is not happening.
> 
> (2) Make the tests build with any host headers.
> 
> (3) Regularly archive the required headers in the selftest directory
>      like external projects like QEMU do.

Or (4) Hack in little ifdef snippets, into the selftests, like we used
to do. Peter Zijlstra seems to be asking for this, if I understand his
(much) earlier comments about this.



thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-11 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-06 10:36 [PATCH v6 0/5] userfaultfd move option Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-06 10:36 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] mm/rmap: support move to different root anon_vma in folio_move_anon_rmap() Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-06 10:36 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_MOVE uABI Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-06 10:36 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] selftests/mm: call uffd_test_ctx_clear at the end of the test Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-06 10:36 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] selftests/mm: add uffd_test_case_ops to allow test case-specific operations Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-06 10:36 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] selftests/mm: add UFFDIO_MOVE ioctl test Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-10 14:23   ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11  1:01     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-11  3:04       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-11 11:15         ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 12:03           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-11 12:24             ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 16:15               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-11 16:25                 ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 16:29                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-11 16:34                     ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 16:43                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-11 16:32                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-11 16:41                   ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 16:53                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-11 17:32                       ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 18:00                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-11 20:01                           ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 20:11                             ` John Hubbard
2023-12-12 15:27                               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-12 19:39                                 ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 18:46                   ` John Hubbard [this message]
2023-12-11 20:21                     ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 20:29                       ` John Hubbard
2023-12-12 15:12                         ` Mark Brown
2023-12-13  2:14                           ` John Hubbard
2023-12-13  3:58                             ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-12-13  5:52                               ` John Hubbard
2023-12-13  5:55                                 ` John Hubbard
2023-12-13  9:59                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-13 22:01                                     ` John Hubbard
2023-12-14  9:02                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-13 14:00                               ` Mark Brown

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