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From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, serge@hallyn.com
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, zohar@linux.ibm.com,
	christian.brauner@ubuntu.com, containers@lists.linux.dev,
	dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	krzysztof.struczynski@huawei.com, roberto.sassu@huawei.com,
	mpeters@redhat.com, lhinds@redhat.com, lsturman@redhat.com,
	puiterwi@redhat.com, jejb@linux.ibm.com, jamjoom@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paul@paul-moore.com,
	rgb@redhat.com, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	jmorris@namei.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 00/27] ima: Namespace IMA with audit support in IMA-ns
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 09:40:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3f053d38-00f7-b495-4ea2-3c61fa120284@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220202141329.k5jcsbutpmzv53c3@wittgenstein>


On 2/2/22 09:13, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 03:37:08PM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>
>> v10:
>>   - Added A-b's; addressed issues from v9
>>   - Added 2 patches to support freeing of iint after namespace deletion
>>   - Added patch to return error code from securityfs functions
>>   - Added patch to limit number of policy rules in IMA-ns to 1024
> I'm going to go take a lighter touch with this round of reviews.
> First, because I have February off. :)
> Second, because I think that someone who is more familiar with IMA and
> its requirements should take another look to provide input and ask more
> questions. Last time I spoke to Serge he did want to give this a longer
> look and maybe also has additional questions.

The one problem I am seeing is that we probably cannot support auditing 
in IMA namespaces since every user can now create an IMA namespace. 
Unless auditing was namespaced, the way it is now gives too much control 
to the user to flood the host audit log. So, we may need to head towards 
support for IMA measurements in the IMA namespace right away and not 
support audit rules but also possibly eliminate other actions that are 
being audited by IMA to not occur while an IMA namespace is active, such 
as when policy rules are being set etc. Not supporting auditing in 
IMA-ns affects only few of the patches in this series. We need most of 
them for a basis of IMA measurements but to get to IMA measurements 
along with support for inheritance and configuration of hash algorithm 
and log template etc. to use in the IMA namespace and set it in its 
configuration 'stage' (before activation), we will need at least 25 more 
patches on top of what have here now... so this series will then be 
around 50 patches.

    Stefan


  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-02 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-01 20:37 [PATCH v10 00/27] ima: Namespace IMA with audit support in IMA-ns Stefan Berger
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 01/27] ima: Remove ima_policy file before directory Stefan Berger
2022-02-10 12:02   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 02/27] ima: Do not print policy rule with inactive LSM labels Stefan Berger
2022-02-02 14:17   ` Christian Brauner
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 03/27] ima: Return error code obtained from securityfs functions Stefan Berger
2022-02-10 12:02   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-15 18:09     ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 04/27] securityfs: rework dentry creation Stefan Berger
2022-02-10 12:03   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 05/27] ima: Define ima_namespace struct and start moving variables into it Stefan Berger
2022-02-16 14:41   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-16 20:25     ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 06/27] ima: Move arch_policy_entry into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2022-02-16 16:39   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-16 20:48     ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-16 20:56       ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-16 21:19         ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 07/27] ima: Move ima_htable " Stefan Berger
2022-02-16 14:41   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 08/27] ima: Move measurement list related variables " Stefan Berger
2022-02-17 14:46   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 09/27] ima: Move some IMA policy and filesystem " Stefan Berger
2022-02-17 14:44   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 10/27] ima: Move IMA securityfs files into ima_namespace or onto stack Stefan Berger
2022-02-17 14:44   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 11/27] ima: Move ima_lsm_policy_notifier into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2022-02-17 20:30   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-17 20:59     ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-17 21:24       ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 12/27] ima: Define mac_admin_ns_capable() as a wrapper for ns_capable() Stefan Berger
2022-02-05  5:58   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2022-02-06 17:20     ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-07 18:43       ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-23 17:51         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 13/27] ima: Only accept AUDIT rules for non-init_ima_ns namespaces for now Stefan Berger
2022-02-17 21:32   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 14/27] userns: Add pointer to ima_namespace to user_namespace Stefan Berger
2022-02-18 16:26   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 15/27] ima: Implement hierarchical processing of file accesses Stefan Berger
2022-02-02 13:19   ` [PATCH] ima: fix semicolon.cocci warnings kernel test robot
2022-02-02 13:19     ` kernel test robot
2022-02-02 13:19   ` [PATCH v10 15/27] ima: Implement hierarchical processing of file accesses kernel test robot
2022-02-02 13:19     ` kernel test robot
2022-02-18 16:27   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 16/27] ima: Implement ima_free_policy_rules() for freeing of an ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2022-02-18 17:09   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-18 19:38     ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-18 20:04       ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 17/27] ima: Add functions for creating and " Stefan Berger
2022-02-18 19:49   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 18/27] integrity/ima: Define ns_status for storing namespaced iint data Stefan Berger
2022-02-23 16:12   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-24  2:21     ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-24  2:49       ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 19/27] integrity: Add optional callback function to integrity_inode_free() Stefan Berger
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 20/27] ima: Namespace audit status flags Stefan Berger
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 21/27] ima: Remove unused iints from the integrity_iint_cache Stefan Berger
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 22/27] securityfs: Extend securityfs with namespacing support Stefan Berger
2022-02-23  1:48   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-23  8:14     ` Christian Brauner
2022-02-23 15:44       ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 23/27] ima: Setup securityfs for IMA namespace Stefan Berger
2022-02-23 11:45   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 24/27] ima: Introduce securityfs file to activate an " Stefan Berger
2022-02-23 13:54   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-23 17:08     ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-23 17:12       ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-23 22:30         ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 25/27] ima: Show owning user namespace's uid and gid when displaying policy Stefan Berger
2022-02-23 14:06   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 26/27] ima: Limit number of policy rules in non-init_ima_ns Stefan Berger
2022-02-23 15:38   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-23 16:37     ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-23 17:04       ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-23 20:45         ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-23 20:59           ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-23 21:06             ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-01 20:37 ` [PATCH v10 27/27] ima: Enable IMA namespaces Stefan Berger
2022-02-23 17:58   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2022-02-23 20:53     ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-02 14:13 ` [PATCH v10 00/27] ima: Namespace IMA with audit support in IMA-ns Christian Brauner
2022-02-02 14:40   ` Stefan Berger [this message]
2022-02-02 16:04     ` Mimi Zohar
2022-02-02 18:18       ` Stefan Berger
2022-02-02 21:27         ` Stefan Berger

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