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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
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	<antonio.gomez.iglesias@linux.intel.com>,
	"Milburn, Alyssa" <alyssa.milburn@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH  v2 1/6] x86/bugs: Add asm helpers for executing VERW
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 13:30:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49A97ACF-24A3-452C-88A5-0D55F77B7780@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ1PR11MB6083FE98A35C6BCF027B568CFCDFA@SJ1PR11MB6083.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On October 24, 2023 12:40:02 PM PDT, "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com> wrote:
>> Sure it could, but it would mean the kernel is sitting on an average of 6 MB of unusable memory. It would also mean that unloaded modules would create holes in that memory which would have to be managed.
>
>On my Fedora38 desktop:
>
>$ lsmod | awk '{ bytes += $2 } END {print bytes/(1024*1024)}'
>21.0859
>
>Lots more than 6MB memory already essentially pinned by loaded modules.
>
>$ head -3 /proc/meminfo
>MemTotal:       65507344 kB
>MemFree:        56762336 kB
>MemAvailable:   63358552 kB
>
>Pinning 20 or so Mbytes isn't going to make a dent in that free memory.
>
>Managing the holes for unloading/reloading modules adds some complexity ... but shouldn't be awful.
>
>If this code managed at finer granularity than "page", it would save some memory.
>
>$ lsmod | wc -l
>123
>
>All those modules rounding text/data up to 4K boundaries is wasting a bunch of it.
>
>-Tony
>
>
>

Sure, but is it worth the effort?

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-24 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-24  8:08 [PATCH v2 0/6] Delay VERW Pawan Gupta
2023-10-24  8:08 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] x86/bugs: Add asm helpers for executing VERW Pawan Gupta
2023-10-24 10:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-24 16:35     ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-24 16:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-24 16:45         ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-24 17:02           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-24 17:30             ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-24 18:27             ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-10-24 18:49               ` Luck, Tony
2023-10-24 19:14                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-10-24 19:40                   ` Luck, Tony
2023-10-24 20:30                     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2023-10-24 22:30                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-24 22:28               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-25  4:00     ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-25  6:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-25 15:06         ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-25  6:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-25 15:10         ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-24  8:08 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] x86/entry_64: Add VERW just before userspace transition Pawan Gupta
2023-10-24  8:08 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] x86/entry_32: " Pawan Gupta
2023-10-24  8:08 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] x86/bugs: Use ALTERNATIVE() instead of mds_user_clear static key Pawan Gupta
2023-10-25 22:08   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-24  8:08 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] KVM: VMX: Use BT+JNC, i.e. EFLAGS.CF to select VMRESUME vs. VMLAUNCH Pawan Gupta
2023-10-25  8:15   ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-10-24  8:08 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] KVM: VMX: Move VERW closer to VMentry for MDS mitigation Pawan Gupta
2023-10-25  7:47   ` Chao Gao
2023-10-25 15:15     ` Pawan Gupta
2023-10-24 12:26 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Delay VERW Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-24 17:01   ` Pawan Gupta

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