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From: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, agraf@suse.de,
	pmullaney@novell.com, pmorreale@novell.com,
	anthony@codemonkey.ws, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 01/17] shm-signal: shared-memory signals
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:58:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D283F7.7030508@novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49D280C0.8010802@redhat.com>

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Avi Kivity wrote:
> Gregory Haskins wrote:
>> This interface provides a bidirectional shared-memory based signaling
>> mechanism.  It can be used by any entities which desire efficient
>> communication via shared memory.  The implementation details of the
>> signaling are abstracted so that they may transcend a wide variety
>> of locale boundaries (e.g. userspace/kernel, guest/host, etc).
>>
>> The shm_signal mechanism supports event masking as well as spurious
>> event delivery mitigation.
>> +
>> +/*
>> + *---------
>> + * The following structures represent data that is shared across
>> boundaries
>> + * which may be quite disparate from one another (e.g. Windows vs
>> Linux,
>> + * 32 vs 64 bit, etc).  Therefore, care has been taken to make sure
>> they
>> + * present data in a manner that is independent of the environment.
>> + *-----------
>> + */
>> +
>> +#define SHM_SIGNAL_MAGIC 0x58fa39df
>> +#define SHM_SIGNAL_VER   1
>> +
>> +struct shm_signal_irq {
>> +    __u8                  enabled;
>> +    __u8                  pending;
>> +    __u8                  dirty;
>> +};
>>   
>
> Some ABIs may choose to pad this, suggest explicit padding.

Yeah, good idea.  What is the official way to do this these days?  Are
GCC pragmas allowed?

>
>> +
>> +enum shm_signal_locality {
>> +    shm_locality_north,
>> +    shm_locality_south,
>> +};
>> +
>> +struct shm_signal_desc {
>> +    __u32                 magic;
>> +    __u32                 ver;
>> +    struct shm_signal_irq irq[2];
>> +};
>>   
>
> Similarly, this should be padded to 0 (mod 8).
Ack

>
> Instead of versions, I prefer feature flags which can be independently
> enabled or disabled.

Totally agreed.  If you look, most of the ABI has a type of "NEGCAP"
(negotiate capabilities) feature.  The version number is a contingency
plan in case I still have to break it for whatever reason.   I will
always opt for the feature bits over bumping the version when its
feasible (especially if/when this is actually in the field).

>
>> +
>> +/* --- END SHARED STRUCTURES --- */
>> +
>> +#ifdef __KERNEL__
>> +
>> +#include <linux/interrupt.h>
>> +
>> +struct shm_signal_notifier {
>> +    void (*signal)(struct shm_signal_notifier *);
>> +};
>>   
>
> This means "->inject() has been called from the other side"?

Yep
>
> (reading below I see this is so.  not used to reading well commented
> code... :)

:)

>
>> +
>> +struct shm_signal;
>> +
>> +struct shm_signal_ops {
>> +    int      (*inject)(struct shm_signal *s);
>> +    void     (*fault)(struct shm_signal *s, const char *fmt, ...);
>>   
>
> Eww.  Must we involve strings and printf formats?

This is still somewhat of a immature part of the design.  Its supposed
to be used so that by default, its a panic.  But on the host side, we
can do something like inject a machine-check.  That way malicious/broken
guests cannot (should not? ;) be able to take down the host.  Note today
I do not map this to anything other than the default panic, so this
needs some love.

But given the asynchronous nature of the fault, I want to be sure we
have decent accounting to avoid bug reports like "silent MCE kills the
guest" ;)  At least this way, we can log the fault string somewhere to
get a clue.

>
>> +    void     (*release)(struct shm_signal *s);
>> +};
>> +
>> +/*
>> + * signaling protocol:
>> + *
>> + * each side of the shm_signal has an "irq" structure with the
>> following
>> + * fields:
>> + *
>> + *    - enabled: controlled by shm_signal_enable/disable() to
>> mask/unmask
>> + *               the notification locally
>> + *    - dirty:   indicates if the shared-memory is dirty or clean. 
>> This
>> + *               is updated regardless of the enabled/pending state
>> so that
>> + *               the state is always accurately tracked.
>> + *    - pending: indicates if a signal is pending to the remote locale.
>> + *               This allows us to determine if a
>> remote-notification is
>> + *               already in flight to optimize spurious
>> notifications away.
>> + */
>>   
>
> When you overlay a ring on top of this, won't the ring indexes convey
> the same information as ->dirty?

I agree that the information may be redundant with components of the
broader shm state.  However, we need this state at this level of scope
in order to function optimally, so I dont think its a huge deal to have
this here as well.  Afterall, the shm_signal library can only assess its
internal state.  We would have to teach it how to glean the broader
state through some mechanism otherwise (callback, perhaps), but I don't
think its worth it.

-Greg

>
>


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  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-31 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-31 18:42 [RFC PATCH 00/17] virtual-bus Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:42 ` [RFC PATCH 01/17] shm-signal: shared-memory signals Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:44   ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-31 20:58     ` Gregory Haskins [this message]
2009-03-31 21:05       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-01 12:12         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 12:24           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-01 13:57             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:42 ` [RFC PATCH 02/17] vbus: add virtual-bus definitions Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 16:06   ` Ben Hutchings
2009-04-02 18:13     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 03/17] vbus: add connection-client helper infrastructure Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 04/17] vbus: add bus-registration notifiers Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 05/17] vbus: add a "vbus-proxy" bus model for vbus_driver objects Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 06/17] ioq: Add basic definitions for a shared-memory, lockless queue Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 07/17] ioq: add vbus helpers Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 08/17] venet: add the ABI definitions for an 802.x packet interface Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 09/17] net: Add vbus_enet driver Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:39   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-02 11:43     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 10/17] venet-tap: Adds a "venet" compatible "tap" device to VBUS Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 11/17] venet: add scatter-gather support Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 12/17] venettap: " Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 13/17] x86: allow the irq->vector translation to be determined outside of ioapic Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 19:16   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-31 20:02     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH 14/17] kvm: add a reset capability Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 19:22   ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-31 20:02     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:18       ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-31 20:37         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH 15/17] kvm: add dynamic IRQ support Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 19:20   ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-31 19:39     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:13       ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-31 20:32         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:59           ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-31 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH 16/17] kvm: Add VBUS support to the host Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH 17/17] kvm: Add guest-side support for VBUS Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:18 ` [RFC PATCH 00/17] virtual-bus Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 12:03   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 13:23     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 14:19       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 14:42         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 17:01         ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 18:45           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-01 20:40             ` Chris Wright
2009-04-01 21:11               ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 21:28                 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-01 22:10                   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02  6:00                     ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02  3:11               ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-01 21:09             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02  0:29               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02  3:11                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02  6:51               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  8:52                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  9:02                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  9:16                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  9:27                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  9:29                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  9:33                           ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  9:38                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  9:41                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  9:43                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  9:44                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 11:06                             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 11:59                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 12:30                                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 12:43                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 13:03                                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 12:13                               ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-02 12:50                                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 12:52                                   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 13:07                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 13:22                                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 13:27                                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 14:05                                         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 14:50                                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 15:00                                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 15:40                                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 15:57                                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 16:09                                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 16:54                                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 17:06                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 17:17                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 12:25                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 15:10                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-03  4:43                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-02 10:55                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 11:48                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 10:58                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-03 11:03                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 11:12                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 11:46                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 11:48                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 11:54                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 11:55                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 12:02                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 13:05                                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 11:18                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-03 11:34                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 11:46                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 11:28                       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 10:46                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 11:43                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 12:22                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 12:42                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 12:54                         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 13:08                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 13:36                             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 13:45                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 14:24                                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 14:32                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 14:41                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 14:49                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 16:09                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 16:19                                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 18:18                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-03  1:11                                               ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-20 18:02                                               ` [kvm] " Alex Williamson
2009-04-20 18:02                                                 ` Alex Williamson
2009-04-03 12:03                                           ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-03 12:15                                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 13:13                                               ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-03 13:37                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 13:37                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 16:28                                                   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-03 16:28                                                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-05 10:00                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-05 10:00                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  3:09             ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  6:46               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  8:54                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02  9:03                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  9:05                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-01 20:29           ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 22:23             ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 23:05               ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01  6:08 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-01 11:35   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02  1:24     ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-02  2:27       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 16:10   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-05  3:44     ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-05  8:06       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-05 14:13       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-05 16:10         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-05 16:45           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02  3:15   ` Herbert Xu

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