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From: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
To: Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Babu Moger <Babu.Moger@amd.com>,
	shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com,
	D Scott Phillips OS <scott@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	carl@os.amperecomputing.com, lcherian@marvell.com,
	bobo.shaobowang@huawei.com, tan.shaopeng@fujitsu.com,
	xingxin.hx@openanolis.org, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
	Jamie Iles <quic_jiles@quicinc.com>,
	Xin Hao <xhao@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/19] x86/resctrl: Queue mon_event_read() instead of sending an IPI
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 15:12:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <670081d0-b4fc-79c5-68f8-5b3c162b74b9@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALPaoCgnHYwpyVy_aPafPm6-v+DqirXSbVBLP_wx6jEp8pNBOA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Peter,

On 23/03/2023 09:09, Peter Newman wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 3:07 PM Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 6:27 PM James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> x86 is blessed with an abundance of monitors, one per RMID, that can be
>>
>> As I explained earlier, this is not the case on AMD.
>>
>>> read from any CPU in the domain. MPAMs monitors reside in the MMIO MSC,
>>> the number implemented is up to the manufacturer. This means when there are
>>> fewer monitors than needed, they need to be allocated and freed.
>>>
>>> Worse, the domain may be broken up into slices, and the MMIO accesses
>>> for each slice may need performing from different CPUs.
>>>
>>> These two details mean MPAMs monitor code needs to be able to sleep, and
>>> IPI another CPU in the domain to read from a resource that has been sliced.
>>
>> This doesn't sound very convincing. Could mon_event_read() IPI all the
>> CPUs in the domain? (after waiting to allocate and install monitors
>> when necessary?)
> 
> No wait, I know that isn't correct.
> 
> As you explained it, the remote CPU needs to sleep because it may need
> to atomically acquire, install, and read a CSU monitor.
> 
> It still seems possible for the mon_event_read() thread to do all the
> waiting (tell remote CPU to program CSU monitor, wait, tell same remote
> CPU to read monitor), but that sounds like more work that I don't see a
> lot of benefit to doing today.
> 
> Can you update the changelog to just say the remote CPU needs to block
> when installing a CSU monitor?

Sure, I've added this after the first paragraph:
-------%<-------
MPAM's CSU monitors are used to back the 'llc_occupancy' monitor file. The
CSU counter is allowed to return 'not ready' for a small number of
micro-seconds after programming. To allow one CSU hardware monitor to be
used for multiple control or monitor groups, the CPU accessing the
monitor needs to be able to block when configuring and reading the
counter.
-------%<-------


Thanks,

James

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-27 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-20 17:26 [PATCH v3 00/19] x86/resctrl: monitored closid+rmid together, separate arch/fs locking James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 01/19] x86/resctrl: Track the closid with the rmid James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 02/19] x86/resctrl: Access per-rmid structures by index James Morse
2023-03-21 10:57   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-03-31 23:19   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-24 13:06   ` Peter Newman
2023-05-25 17:32     ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 03/19] x86/resctrl: Create helper for RMID allocation and mondata dir creation James Morse
2023-03-21 11:05   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-03-31 23:20   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 04/19] x86/resctrl: Move rmid allocation out of mkdir_rdt_prepare() James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 05/19] x86/resctrl: Allow RMID allocation to be scoped by CLOSID James Morse
2023-03-21 11:29   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 06/19] x86/resctrl: Allow the allocator to check if a CLOSID can allocate clean RMID James Morse
2023-03-31 23:21   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:09     ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 07/19] x86/resctrl: Move CLOSID/RMID matching and setting to use helpers James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 08/19] x86/resctrl: Add cpumask_any_housekeeping() for limbo/overflow James Morse
2023-03-21 13:21   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-04-27 14:09     ` James Morse
2023-03-21 15:14   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-04-27 14:09     ` James Morse
2023-04-27 14:25       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-05-25 17:32         ` James Morse
2023-03-31 23:24   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:10     ` James Morse
2023-04-27 23:36       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-05-25 17:32         ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 09/19] x86/resctrl: Queue mon_event_read() instead of sending an IPI James Morse
2023-03-22 14:07   ` Peter Newman
2023-03-23  9:09     ` Peter Newman
2023-04-27 14:12       ` James Morse [this message]
2023-04-27 14:11     ` James Morse
2023-03-31 23:25   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:12     ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 10/19] x86/resctrl: Allow resctrl_arch_rmid_read() to sleep James Morse
2023-03-31 23:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:12     ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 11/19] x86/resctrl: Allow arch to allocate memory needed in resctrl_arch_rmid_read() James Morse
2023-03-31 23:27   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:19     ` James Morse
2023-04-27 23:40       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-05-25 17:31         ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 12/19] x86/resctrl: Make resctrl_mounted checks explicit James Morse
2023-03-31 23:28   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:19     ` James Morse
2023-04-27 23:37       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-05-25 17:31         ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 13/19] x86/resctrl: Move alloc/mon static keys into helpers James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 14/19] x86/resctrl: Make rdt_enable_key the arch's decision to switch James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 15/19] x86/resctrl: Add helpers for system wide mon/alloc capable James Morse
2023-03-31 23:29   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:19     ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 16/19] x86/resctrl: Add cpu online callback for resctrl work James Morse
2023-03-31 23:29   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 17/19] x86/resctrl: Allow overflow/limbo handlers to be scheduled on any-but cpu James Morse
2023-03-21 15:12   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-03-21 15:25     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-04-27 14:20       ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 18/19] x86/resctrl: Add cpu offline callback for resctrl work James Morse
2023-03-21 15:32   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-04-27 14:20     ` James Morse
2023-04-27 14:51       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-04-05 23:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-04-27 14:20     ` James Morse
2023-03-20 17:26 ` [PATCH v3 19/19] x86/resctrl: Separate arch and fs resctrl locks James Morse
2023-05-23 17:14 ` [PATCH v3 00/19] x86/resctrl: monitored closid+rmid together, separate arch/fs locking Tony Luck
2023-05-25 17:31   ` James Morse
2023-05-25 21:00     ` Tony Luck
2023-05-28 20:52       ` Drew Fustini

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