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From: Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>
To: Alexandru Ardelean <ardeleanalex@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
Cc: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@jic23.retrosnub.co.uk>,
	"Sa, Nuno" <Nuno.Sa@analog.com>,
	"zzzzArdelean, zzzzAlexandru" <alexandru.Ardelean@analog.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-iio <linux-iio@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Hennerich, Michael" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	"Bogdan, Dragos" <Dragos.Bogdan@analog.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 20/24] iio: buffer: add ioctl() to support opening extra buffers for IIO device
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 13:00:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <77db0332-4fd1-fb5f-8c22-10653139f3e7@metafoo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+U=DspJkK=sqy=va7mds0cOfJrS3nEd3-pymjztuYYNaG8vPA@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/24/21 10:10 AM, Alexandru Ardelean wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:35 PM Jonathan Cameron
> <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com> wrote:
>>
[..]
>>>
>>> Continuing a bit with the original IIO buffer ioctl(), I talked to
>>> Lars a bit over IRC.
>>> And there was an idea/suggestion to maybe use a struct to pass more
>>> information to the buffer FD.
>>>
>>> So, right now the ioctl() just returns an FD.
>>> Would it be worth to extend this to a struct?
>>> What I'm worried about is that it opens the discussion to add more
>>> stuff to that struct.
>>>
>>> so now, it would be:
>>>
>>> struct iio_buffer_ioctl_data {
>>>              __u32 fd;
>>>              __u32 flags;   // flags for the new FD, which maybe we
>>> could also pass via fcntl()
>>> }
>>>
>>> anything else that we would need?
>>
>> I have a vague recollection that is is almost always worth adding
>> some padding to such ioctl data coming out of the kernel.  Gives
>> flexibility to safely add more stuff later without userspace
>> failing to allocate enough space etc.
>>
>> I'm curious though, because this feels backwards. I'd expect the
>> flags to be more useful passed into the ioctl? i.e. request
>> a non blocking FD?  Might want to mirror that back again of course.
> 

The struct can be used for both. Passing flags and buffer number in and fd out.

> Personally, I don't know.
> I don't have any experiences on this.
> 
> So, then I'll do a change to this ioctl() to use a struct.
> We can probably add some reserved space?
> 
> struct iio_buffer_ioctl_data {
>              __u32 fd;
>              __u32 flags;
>              __u32 reserved1;
>              __u32 reserved2;
> }

What to make sure of when using reserved fields is to check that they are 0. 
And reject the ioctl if they are not. This is the only way to ensure that old 
applications will continue to work if the struct is updated.

> 
> Lars was giving me some articles about ioctls.
> One idea was to maybe consider making them multiples of 64 bits.
> 
> But reading through one of the docs here:
>       https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/driver-api/ioctl.html#interface-versions
> it discourages to do interface versions.
> 
> But I guess if we plan ahead with some reserved space, it might be
> somewhat fine.
> 
> I'm still a little green on this stuff.
> 
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-27 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-15 10:40 [PATCH v6 00/24] iio: core,buffer: add support for multiple IIO buffers per IIO device Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 01/24] iio: adc: ti_am335x_adc: remove omitted iio_kfifo_free() Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 11:18   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 02/24] iio: kfifo: add devm_iio_kfifo_buffer_setup() helper Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-28  8:06   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-02-28 17:45     ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 03/24] iio: make use of " Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 12:11   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-16 23:46     ` Gwendal Grignou
2021-02-18  8:22       ` Matt Ranostay
2021-02-18 13:25         ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 04/24] iio: accel: sca3000: use " Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 05/24] iio: kfifo: un-export devm_iio_kfifo_allocate() function Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 06/24] iio: buffer-dma,adi-axi-adc: introduce devm_iio_dmaengine_buffer_setup() Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 07/24] docs: ioctl-number.rst: reserve IIO subsystem ioctl() space Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 08/24] iio: core: register chardev only if needed Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 09/24] iio: core-trigger: make iio_device_register_trigger_consumer() an int return Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 10/24] iio: core: rework iio device group creation Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 11/24] iio: buffer: group attr count and attr alloc Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 12/24] iio: core: merge buffer/ & scan_elements/ attributes Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 13/24] iio: add reference to iio buffer on iio_dev_attr Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 14/24] iio: buffer: wrap all buffer attributes into iio_dev_attr Alexandru Ardelean
     [not found]   ` <CGME20210401073947eucas1p2c7f672475bce79dea00e9398cc562073@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2021-04-01  7:39     ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-04-01  8:26       ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-01 11:10         ` Alexandru Ardelean
2022-09-09  8:12   ` Vaittinen, Matti
2022-09-19  8:52     ` [RFT] potential bug with IIO_CONST_ATTR usage with triggered buffers Vaittinen, Matti
2022-09-19 15:32       ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-19 17:18         ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-19 18:06           ` Vaittinen, Matti
2022-09-24 13:49             ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-25 13:28               ` Alexandru Ardelean
2022-10-06  8:33       ` Claudiu.Beznea
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 15/24] iio: buffer: dmaengine: obtain buffer object from attribute Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 12:44   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 16/24] iio: core: wrap iio device & buffer into struct for character devices Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 17/24] iio: buffer: move __iio_buffer_free_sysfs_and_mask() before alloc Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 18/24] iio: dummy: iio_simple_dummy_buffer: use triggered buffer core calls Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 19/24] iio: buffer: introduce support for attaching more IIO buffers Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-28  8:29   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-02-28 17:46     ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 20/24] iio: buffer: add ioctl() to support opening extra buffers for IIO device Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-28  7:57   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-02-28 18:04     ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-28  8:51   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-02-28 14:34     ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-28 15:51       ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-02-28 17:27         ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-03-06 17:00           ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-03-07 12:13             ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-03-13 18:46               ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-03-15  9:58             ` Sa, Nuno
2021-03-20 17:41               ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-03-21 17:37                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-03-23  9:51                   ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-03-23 11:34                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-03-24  9:10                       ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-03-27 12:00                         ` Lars-Peter Clausen [this message]
2021-02-28 18:09         ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 21/24] iio: core: rename 'dev' -> 'indio_dev' in iio_device_alloc() Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 22/24] tools: iio: make iioutils_get_type() private in iio_utils Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 23/24] tools: iio: privatize globals and functions in iio_generic_buffer.c file Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 24/24] tools: iio: convert iio_generic_buffer to use new IIO buffer API Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 13:52   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-15 13:57 ` [PATCH v6 00/24] iio: core,buffer: add support for multiple IIO buffers per IIO device Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-15 14:10   ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-16 11:19     ` Jonathan Cameron

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