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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 27/28] sunrpc: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather then sendpage
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:28:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <782776.1678987682@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EDC79DC-0C32-40FD-9C35-164C7A077922@oracle.com>

Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com> wrote:

> That means I haven't seen the cover letter and do not have any
> context for this proposed change.

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20230316152618.711970-1-dhowells@redhat.com/

> We've tried combining the sendpages calls in here before. It
> results in a significant and measurable performance regression.
> See:
> 
> da1661b93bf4 ("SUNRPC: Teach server to use xprt_sock_sendmsg for socket sends")

The commit replaced the use of sendpage with sendmsg, but that took away the
zerocopy aspect of sendpage.  The idea behind MSG_SPLICE_PAGES is that it
allows you to do keep that.  I'll have to try reapplying this commit and
adding the MSG_SPLICE_PAGES flag.

> Therefore, this kind of change needs to be accompanied by both
> benchmark results and some field testing to convince me it won't
> cause harm.

Yep.

> And, we have to make certain that this doesn't break operation
> with kTLS sockets... do they support MSG_SPLICE_PAGES ?

I haven't yet tackled AF_TLS, AF_KCM or AF_SMC as they seem significantly more
complex than TCP and UDP.  I thought I'd get some feedback on what I have
before I tried my hand at those.

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-16 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-16 15:25 [RFC PATCH 00/28] splice, net: Replace sendpage with sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) David Howells
2023-03-16 15:25 ` [RFC PATCH 01/28] net: Declare MSG_SPLICE_PAGES internal sendmsg() flag David Howells
2023-03-16 15:25 ` [RFC PATCH 02/28] Add a special allocator for staging netfs protocol to MSG_SPLICE_PAGES David Howells
2023-03-16 17:28   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-16 18:00   ` David Howells
2023-03-16 15:25 ` [RFC PATCH 03/28] tcp: Support MSG_SPLICE_PAGES David Howells
2023-03-16 18:37   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-03-16 18:44   ` David Howells
2023-03-16 19:00     ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-03-21  0:38     ` David Howells
2023-03-21 14:22       ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-03-22 13:56         ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] net: Drop size arg from ->sendmsg() and pass msghdr into __ip{,6}_append_data() David Howells
2023-03-22 13:56           ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] net: Drop the size argument from ->sendmsg() David Howells
2023-03-22 13:56             ` David Howells
2023-03-22 13:56             ` David Howells
2023-03-22 14:13             ` [RFC,1/3] " bluez.test.bot
2023-03-23  1:11             ` bluez.test.bot
2023-03-22 13:56           ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] ip: Make __ip{,6}_append_data() and co. take a msghdr* David Howells
2023-03-22 17:25             ` kernel test robot
2023-03-22 22:12             ` kernel test robot
2023-03-23  1:25             ` kernel test robot
2023-03-23  1:25             ` kernel test robot
2023-03-22 13:56           ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] net: Declare MSG_SPLICE_PAGES internal sendmsg() flag David Howells
2023-03-23  1:17           ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] net: Drop size arg from ->sendmsg() and pass msghdr into __ip{,6}_append_data() Willem de Bruijn
2023-03-16 15:25 ` [RFC PATCH 04/28] tcp: Convert do_tcp_sendpages() to use MSG_SPLICE_PAGES David Howells
2023-03-16 15:25 ` [RFC PATCH 05/28] tcp_bpf: Inline do_tcp_sendpages as it's now a wrapper around tcp_sendmsg David Howells
2023-03-16 15:25 ` [RFC PATCH 06/28] espintcp: Inline do_tcp_sendpages() David Howells
2023-03-16 15:25 ` [RFC PATCH 07/28] tls: " David Howells
2023-03-16 15:25 ` [RFC PATCH 08/28] siw: " David Howells
2023-03-20 10:53   ` Bernard Metzler
2023-03-20 11:08   ` David Howells
2023-03-20 12:27     ` Bernard Metzler
2023-03-20 13:13     ` David Howells
2023-03-20 13:18       ` Bernard Metzler
2023-03-16 15:25 ` [RFC PATCH 09/28] tcp: Fold do_tcp_sendpages() into tcp_sendpage_locked() David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 10/28] ip, udp: Support MSG_SPLICE_PAGES David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 11/28] udp: Convert udp_sendpage() to use MSG_SPLICE_PAGES David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 12/28] af_unix: Support MSG_SPLICE_PAGES David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 13/28] crypto: af_alg: Indent the loop in af_alg_sendmsg() David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 14/28] crypto: af_alg: Support MSG_SPLICE_PAGES David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 15/28] crypto: af_alg: Convert af_alg_sendpage() to use MSG_SPLICE_PAGES David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 16/28] splice, net: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather than ->sendpage() David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 17/28] Remove file->f_op->sendpage David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 18/28] siw: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather than sendpage to transmit David Howells
2023-03-20 13:39   ` Bernard Metzler
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 19/28] ceph: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather than sendpage David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 20/28] iscsi: " David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 21/28] tcp_bpf: Make tcp_bpf_sendpage() go through tcp_bpf_sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 22/28] net: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) not sendpage in skb_send_sock() David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 23/28] algif: Remove hash_sendpage*() David Howells
2023-03-17  2:40   ` Herbert Xu
2023-03-24 16:47     ` David Howells
2023-03-25  6:00       ` Herbert Xu
2023-03-25  7:44       ` David Howells
2023-03-25  9:21         ` Herbert Xu
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 24/28] ceph: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather than sendpage() David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 25/28] rds: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather than sendpage David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 26/28] dlm: " David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26   ` [Cluster-devel] " David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 27/28] sunrpc: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather then sendpage David Howells
2023-03-16 16:17   ` Trond Myklebust
2023-03-16 17:10     ` Chuck Lever III
2023-03-16 17:28     ` David Howells [this message]
2023-03-16 17:41       ` Chuck Lever III
2023-03-16 21:21     ` David Howells
2023-03-17 15:29       ` Chuck Lever III
2023-03-16 16:24   ` David Howells
2023-03-16 17:23     ` Trond Myklebust
2023-03-16 18:06     ` David Howells
2023-03-16 19:01       ` Trond Myklebust
2023-03-22 13:10       ` David Howells
2023-03-22 18:15       ` [RFC PATCH] iov_iter: Add an iterator-of-iterators David Howells
2023-03-22 18:47         ` Trond Myklebust
2023-03-22 18:49         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-16 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 28/28] sock: Remove ->sendpage*() in favour of sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26   ` David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26   ` David Howells
2023-03-16 15:26   ` David Howells
2023-03-16 15:57   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2023-03-16 15:57     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2023-03-16 15:57     ` Marc Kleine-Budde

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