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From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
To: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, "Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Shaopeng Tan" <tan.shaopeng@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"Maciej Wieczór-Retman" <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
	"Fenghua Yu" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 23/24] selftests/resctrl: Add L2 CAT test
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2023 10:57:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8051f3ef-1126-41fb-b6cc-f48441936dd7@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231024092634.7122-24-ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>

Hi Ilpo,

On 10/24/2023 2:26 AM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> CAT selftests only cover L3 but some newer CPUs come also with L2 CAT
> support.

No need to use "new" language. L2 CAT has been available for a long time
... since Apollo Lake. Which systems actually support it is a different
topic. This is an architectural feature that has been available for a
long time. Whether a system supports it will be detected and the test
run based on that. 

> 
> Add L2 CAT selftest. As measuring L2 misses is not easily available
> with perf, use L3 accesses as a proxy for L2 CAT working or not.

I understand the exact measurement is not available but I do notice some
L2 related symbolic counters when I run "perf list". l2_rqsts.all_demand_miss
looks promising.

L3 cannot be relied on for those systems, like Apollo lake, that do
not have an L3.

> 
> Signed-off-by: Ilpo Järvinen <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
> ---
>  tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/cat_test.c    | 68 +++++++++++++++++--
>  tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/resctrl.h     |  1 +
>  .../testing/selftests/resctrl/resctrl_tests.c |  1 +
>  3 files changed, 63 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/cat_test.c b/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/cat_test.c
> index 48a96acd9e31..a9c72022bb5a 100644
> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/cat_test.c
> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/cat_test.c
> @@ -131,8 +131,47 @@ void cat_test_cleanup(void)
>  	remove(RESULT_FILE_NAME);
>  }
>  
> +/*
> + * L2 CAT test measures L2 misses indirectly using L3 accesses as a proxy
> + * because perf cannot directly provide the number of L2 misses (there are
> + * only platform specific ways to get the number of L2 misses).
> + *
> + * This function sets up L3 CAT to reduce noise from other processes during
> + * L2 CAT test.

This motivation is not clear to me. Does the same isolation used during L3 CAT
testing not work? I expected it to follow the same idea with the L2 cache split
in two, the test using one part and the rest of the system using the other.
Is that not enough isolation?

Reinette

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-02 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-24  9:26 [PATCH 00/24] selftests/resctrl: CAT test improvements & generalized test framework Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 01/24] selftests/resctrl: Split fill_buf to allow tests finer-grained control Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 11:24   ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-11-02 17:46   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 02/24] selftests/resctrl: Refactor fill_buf functions Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 11:32   ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-10-27 11:41     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 03/24] selftests/resctrl: Refactor get_cbm_mask() Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 11:39   ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-11-02 17:47   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 12:09     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 04/24] selftests/resctrl: Mark get_cache_size() cache_type const Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 05/24] selftests/resctrl: Create cache_size() helper Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:47   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03  8:53     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-03 22:49       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 06/24] selftests/resctrl: Exclude shareable bits from schemata in CAT test Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 07/24] selftests/resctrl: Split measure_cache_vals() function Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 08/24] selftests/resctrl: Split show_cache_info() to test specific and generic parts Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 09/24] selftests/resctrl: Remove unnecessary __u64 -> unsigned long conversion Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03  9:19     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 10/24] selftests/resctrl: Remove nested calls in perf event handling Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:49   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03  9:45     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 11/24] selftests/resctrl: Consolidate naming of perf event related things Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 12/24] selftests/resctrl: Improve perf init Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 11:45   ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 13/24] selftests/resctrl: Convert perf related globals to locals Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 11:47   ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 14/24] selftests/resctrl: Move cat_val() to cat_test.c and rename to cat_test() Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 11:51   ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-10-27 12:18     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 15/24] selftests/resctrl: Read in less obvious order to defeat prefetch optimizations Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 16/24] selftests/resctrl: Rewrite Cache Allocation Technology (CAT) test Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 12:05   ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
     [not found]     ` <fb5e1a50-ba7-1ee8-8bf2-bb8b64b27b1@linux.intel.com>
2023-10-31  7:24       ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-11-02 17:51   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 10:57     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-03 22:50       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 17/24] selftests/resctrl: Create struct for input parameter Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 12:07   ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-11-02 17:51   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 11:24     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-03 22:50       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-06  9:06         ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 18/24] selftests/resctrl: Introduce generalized test framework Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:52   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03  9:54     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-03 22:50       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 19/24] selftests/resctrl: Pass write_schemata() resource instead of test name Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 20/24] selftests/resctrl: Add helper to convert L2/3 to integer Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-27 12:09   ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 21/24] selftests/resctrl: Get resource id from cache id Ilpo Järvinen
     [not found]   ` <cb2ctfignowlom7lb2t5zhdgtm4s2jlzlvtumlnvxecwwtjk34@ysgepmgkv6bb>
     [not found]     ` <ab4c6aa5-ea49-363a-ff7b-2215665f185d@linux.intel.com>
2023-10-31  7:58       ` Maciej Wieczór-Retman
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 22/24] selftests/resctrl: Add test groups and name L3 CAT test L3_CAT Ilpo Järvinen
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 23/24] selftests/resctrl: Add L2 CAT test Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:57   ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2023-11-03 10:39     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-03 22:53       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-06  9:53         ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-06 17:03           ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-06 21:22             ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-07  9:33               ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-08 16:31                 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-10-24  9:26 ` [PATCH 24/24] selftests/resctrl: Ignore failures from L2 CAT test with <= 2 bits Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-02 17:57   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-11-03 10:24     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-11-03 22:53       ` Reinette Chatre

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