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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>
To: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>
Cc: Linux-Omap <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"K, Ambresh" <ambresh@ti.com>,
	"Cousson, Benoit" <b-cousson@ti.com>,
	Eduardo Valentin <eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>,
	Phil Carmody <ext-phil.2.carmody@nokia.com>,
	"Premi, Sanjeev" <premi@ti.com>,
	Tero Kristo <tero.kristo@nokia.com>,
	"Gopinath, Thara" <thara@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PM-WIP-OPP][PATCH 1/4] omap3: pm: cpufreq: BUG_ON cleanup
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:46:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871vfgxkz5.fsf@deeprootsystems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BA3886E.9070906@ti.com> (Nishanth Menon's message of "Fri\, 19 Mar 2010 09\:21\:34 -0500")

Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com> writes:

> Kevin Hilman had written, on 03/18/2010 05:49 PM, the following:
>> Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com> writes:
>>
>>> BUG_ON should not ideally contain a functional code. Remove it out.
>>
>> True.  But this code should not be using BUG_ON() in the first place.
>>
>> We should not crash the whole kernel in this case, just fail
>> with a warning.
>>
>> If you're cleaning this up, can you make it fail more gracefully.
> I agree  if this was a preipheral driver or a non-critical path. but
> in this case:
>
> a) we are speaking of a core description of the h/w - OPPs frequencies
> and voltages which out which the functionality of the system is at
> stake. I am not speaking of just having a basic kernel boot up to
> shell prompt - we need the kernel to do much better than that.

A system can boot fine without OPPs/DVFS.  OPPs will not be
registered with CPUfreq, and no DVFS atempts will be made.  

> b) Is there any reason why the registration could fail - if it did
> fail at this point, there is something catastrophic happening - some
> other driver is going beserk OR Opp layer is by itself screwed up -
> why continue if we can warn the system and force a fix of the code?

Using WARN() will produce a nice loud message that alert users, get
reported and get fixed as well.

> c) is there a recovery mechanism to put the system back in a usable
> mode with dvfs etc? I might prefer to get some ideas on it..

What is to recover from?  While not optimal in power/performance, a
kernel can boot and work just fine without OPPs/DVFS.  If this call
fails, no DVFS will be available but the system is still quite usable.

The bigger problem is that everyone things that their
feature/subsystem is so crucial that any problems should hang the
system, when things could actually continue just fine without it in
most cases.

IMO, Using BUG* macros usually indicates improper or incomplete error
handling rather than a real catastrophic system failure.

Kevin


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-19 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-18 18:44 [PM-WIP-OPP][PATCH 0/4] few opp layer cleanups Nishanth Menon
2010-03-18 18:44 ` [PM-WIP-OPP][PATCH 1/4] omap3: pm: cpufreq: BUG_ON cleanup Nishanth Menon
2010-03-18 18:44   ` [PM-WIP-OPP][PATCH 2/4] omap: pm: opp: twl: use DIV_ROUND_UP Nishanth Menon
2010-03-18 18:44     ` [PM-WIP-OPP][PATCH 3/4] omap: pm: opp: add ability to store data per opp Nishanth Menon
2010-03-18 18:44       ` [PM-WIP-OPP][PATCH 4/4] omap3: srf: remove hardcoded opp dependency Nishanth Menon
2010-03-19 14:47         ` Felipe Balbi
2010-03-19 15:36           ` Nishanth Menon
2010-03-19 10:14       ` [PM-WIP-OPP][PATCH 3/4] omap: pm: opp: add ability to store data per opp Cousson, Benoit
2010-03-19 14:27         ` Nishanth Menon
2010-03-19 14:43       ` Felipe Balbi
2010-03-19 15:25         ` Nishanth Menon
2010-03-19 17:47           ` Felipe Balbi
2010-03-19 18:10             ` Nishanth Menon
2010-03-21 21:50           ` Cousson, Benoit
2010-03-22 13:29             ` Nishanth Menon
2010-03-22 17:46               ` Cousson, Benoit
2010-03-22 18:25                 ` Nishanth Menon
2010-03-23  5:06                   ` Gopinath, Thara
2010-03-23 13:00                     ` Nishanth Menon
2010-03-23 16:12                       ` Cousson, Benoit
2010-03-23 20:04                         ` Nishanth Menon
2010-03-18 22:49   ` [PM-WIP-OPP][PATCH 1/4] omap3: pm: cpufreq: BUG_ON cleanup Kevin Hilman
2010-03-19 14:21     ` Nishanth Menon
2010-03-19 14:50       ` Felipe Balbi
2010-03-19 17:46       ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2010-03-19 17:52         ` Felipe Balbi
2010-03-19 18:42           ` Kevin Hilman
2010-03-19 19:56             ` Nishanth Menon
2010-03-19 20:49               ` Kevin Hilman
2010-03-19 21:53                 ` Nishanth Menon

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