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From: Nick Alcock <nick.alcock@oracle.com>
To: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: Allen Webb <allenwebb@google.com>,
	Nick Alcock <nick.alcock@oracle.com>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-modules@vger.kernel.org" <linux-modules@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 02/10] rockchip-mailbox: Fix typo
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2023 11:54:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cz7nsz24.fsf@esperi.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y6IDOwxOxZpsdtiu@bombadil.infradead.org> (Luis Chamberlain's message of "Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:47:23 -0800")

On 20 Dec 2022, Luis Chamberlain uttered the following:
>> It also raises the question how many modules have device tables, but
>> do not call MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE since they are only ever built-in.
>> Maybe there should be some build time enforcement mechanism to make
>> sure that these are consistent.
>
> Definitely, Nick Alcock is doing some related work where the semantics
> of built-in modules needs to be clearer, he for instance is now removing
> a few MODULE_() macros for things which *are never* modules, and this is
> because after commit 8b41fc4454e ("kbuild: create modules.builtin
> without Makefile.modbuiltin or tristate.conf") we rely on the module
> license tag to generate the modules.builtin file. Without that commit
> we end up traversing the source tree twice. Nick's work builds on
> that work and futher clarifies these semantics by adding tooling which
> complains when something which is *never* capable of being a module
> uses module macros. The macro you are extending, MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(),
> today is a no-op for built-in, but you are adding support to extend it
> for built-in stuff. Nick's work will help with clarifying symbol locality
> and so he may be interested in your association for the data in
> MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE and how you associate to a respective would-be
> module. His work is useful for making tracing more accurate with respect
> to symbol associations, so the data in MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE() may be
> useful as well to him.

The kallmodsyms module info (and, thus, modules.builtin) and
MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE do seem interestingly related. I wonder if we can in
future reuse at least the module names so we can save a few KiB more
space... (in this case, the canonical copy should probably be the one in
kallmodsyms, because that lets kallmodsyms reuse strings where modules
and their source file have similar names. Something for the future...)

> You folks may want to Cc each other on your patches.

I'd welcome that.

btw, do you want another kallmodsyms patch series from me just arranging
to drop fewer MODULE_ entries from non-modules (just MODULE_LICENSE) or
would this be considered noise for now? (Are we deadlocked on each
other, or are you still looking at the last series I sent, which I think
was v10 in late November?)

-- 
NULL && (void)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-09 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2022-11-29 22:43 ` [PATCH v3] modules: add modalias file to sysfs for modules Allen Webb
2022-11-30  7:06   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-11-30 22:14     ` [PATCH v4] " Allen Webb
2022-12-01  4:33       ` kernel test robot
2022-12-01  6:06       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-12-01  9:46       ` kernel test robot
2022-12-08  2:34   ` [PATCH v3] " Luis Chamberlain
2022-12-08 14:22     ` Allen Webb
2022-12-08 15:20       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-12-16 22:16         ` [PATCH v7 0/5] Generate modules.builtin.alias from match ids Allen Webb
2022-12-16 22:16           ` [PATCH v7 1/5] module.h: MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE for built-in modules Allen Webb
2022-12-17  3:49             ` kernel test robot
2022-12-17  3:59             ` kernel test robot
2022-12-17  4:50             ` kernel test robot
2022-12-17 10:05             ` Christophe Leroy
2022-12-19 15:56               ` Allen Webb
2022-12-16 22:17           ` [PATCH v7 2/5] modpost: Track module name " Allen Webb
2022-12-17 10:08             ` Christophe Leroy
2022-12-16 22:17           ` [PATCH v7 3/5] modpost: Add -b option for emitting built-in aliases Allen Webb
2022-12-17 10:10             ` Christophe Leroy
2022-12-16 22:17           ` [PATCH v7 4/5] file2alias.c: Implement builtin.alias generation Allen Webb
2022-12-17  0:47             ` kernel test robot
2022-12-17  3:09             ` kernel test robot
2022-12-17 10:13             ` Christophe Leroy
2022-12-16 22:17           ` [PATCH v7 5/5] build: Add modules.builtin.alias Allen Webb
2022-12-19 19:18           ` [PATCH v8 0/9] Generate modules.builtin.alias from match ids Allen Webb
2022-12-19 19:18             ` [PATCH v8 1/9] imx: Fix typo Allen Webb
2022-12-19 19:21               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-12-19 19:55                 ` Allen Webb
2022-12-19 19:18             ` [PATCH v8 2/9] rockchip-mailbox: " Allen Webb
2022-12-19 19:18             ` [PATCH v8 3/9] scsi/BusLogic: Always include device id table Allen Webb
2022-12-19 19:18             ` [PATCH v8 4/9] stmpe-spi: Fix typo Allen Webb
2022-12-19 19:18             ` [PATCH v8 5/9] module.h: MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE for built-in modules Allen Webb
2022-12-19 19:18             ` [PATCH v8 6/9] modpost: Track module name " Allen Webb
2022-12-19 19:18             ` [PATCH v8 7/9] modpost: Add -b option for emitting built-in aliases Allen Webb
2022-12-19 19:18             ` [PATCH v8 8/9] file2alias.c: Implement builtin.alias generation Allen Webb
2022-12-19 19:18             ` [PATCH v8 9/9] build: Add modules.builtin.alias Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:06             ` [PATCH v8 0/9] Generate modules.builtin.alias from match ids Luis Chamberlain
2022-12-19 20:42               ` Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:46             ` [PATCH v9 00/10] " Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:46               ` [PATCH v9 01/10] imx: Fix typo Allen Webb
2022-12-19 21:23                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-12-20  6:42                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-12-20 14:26                   ` Allen Webb
2022-12-20 14:32                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-12-20 14:45                       ` Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:46               ` [PATCH v9 02/10] rockchip-mailbox: " Allen Webb
2022-12-20  6:46                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-12-20 14:58                   ` Allen Webb
2022-12-20 18:12                     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-12-20 18:19                       ` Allen Webb
2022-12-20 18:47                         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-12-20 19:49                           ` Allen Webb
2022-12-20 20:03                             ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-12-20 21:57                               ` Allen Webb
2022-12-20 23:09                                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-12-27 17:42                                   ` Allen Webb
2023-01-10  0:25                                     ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-01-09 11:54                           ` Nick Alcock [this message]
2023-01-10 18:20                             ` Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:46               ` [PATCH v9 03/10] scsi/BusLogic: Always include device id table Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:46               ` [PATCH v9 04/10] stmpe-spi: Fix typo Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:46               ` [PATCH v9 05/10] module.h: MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE for built-in modules Allen Webb
2022-12-20  6:45                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-12-20 16:36                   ` Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:46               ` [PATCH v9 06/10] modpost: Track module name " Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:46               ` [PATCH v9 07/10] modpost: Add -b option for emitting built-in aliases Allen Webb
2022-12-20  6:43                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-12-20 17:32                   ` Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:46               ` [PATCH v9 08/10] file2alias.c: Implement builtin.alias generation Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:46               ` [PATCH v9 09/10] build: Add modules.builtin.alias Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:46               ` [PATCH v9 10/10] docs: Include modules.builtin.alias Allen Webb
2022-12-19 20:49                 ` Allen Webb
2022-12-19 21:23                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-12-19 21:40                   ` Allen Webb
2022-12-19 22:07                     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-12-19 22:20                       ` Allen Webb
2022-12-19 22:51                         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-12-19 20:46               ` [PATCH v9 10/10] Documentation: " Allen Webb
2023-04-06 19:00               ` [PATCH v10 00/11] Generate modules.builtin.alias from match ids Allen Webb
2023-04-06 19:00                 ` [PATCH v10 01/11] rockchip-mailbox: Remove unneeded MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE Allen Webb
2023-04-06 19:00                 ` [PATCH v10 02/11] scsi/BusLogic: Always include device id table Allen Webb
2023-04-06 19:00                 ` [PATCH v10 03/11] stmpe-spi: Fix MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE entries Allen Webb
2023-05-24  6:52                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-24  6:52                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-04-06 19:00                 ` [PATCH v10 04/11] module.h: MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE for built-in modules Allen Webb
2023-05-24  6:44                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-04-06 19:00                 ` [PATCH v10 05/11] modpost: Track module name " Allen Webb
2023-04-20  9:47                   ` Greg KH
2023-05-24  6:50                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-04-06 19:00                 ` [PATCH v10 06/11] modpost: Add -b option for emitting built-in aliases Allen Webb
2023-05-24  6:54                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-04-06 19:00                 ` [PATCH v10 07/11] file2alias.c: Implement builtin.alias generation Allen Webb
2023-05-24  7:00                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-04-06 19:00                 ` [PATCH v10 08/11] build: Add modules.builtin.alias Allen Webb
2023-05-24  7:02                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-07-19 19:51                     ` Allen Webb
2023-07-26 18:30                       ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-04-06 19:00                 ` [PATCH v10 09/11] Documentation: Include modules.builtin.alias Allen Webb
2023-04-06 19:00                 ` [PATCH v10 10/11] Documentation: Update writing_usb_driver for built-in modules Allen Webb
2023-04-06 19:00                 ` [PATCH v10 11/11] Documentation: add USB authorization document to driver-api Allen Webb
2023-04-20  9:51                   ` Greg KH

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