Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] Introduce security_create_user_ns()

From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
To: Frederick Lawler <fred@cloudflare.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] Introduce security_create_user_ns()
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2022 21:56:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87les7cq03.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220801180146.1157914-1-fred@cloudflare.com> (Frederick Lawler's message of "Mon, 1 Aug 2022 13:01:42 -0500")

Frederick Lawler <fred@cloudflare.com> writes:

> While creating a LSM BPF MAC policy to block user namespace creation, we
> used the LSM cred_prepare hook because that is the closest hook to prevent
> a call to create_user_ns().

Re-nack for all of the same reasons.
AKA This can only break the users of the user namespace.

Nacked-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>

You aren't fixing what your problem you are papering over it by denying
access to the user namespace.

Nack Nack Nack.

Stop.

Go back to the drawing board.

Do not pass go.

Do not collect $200.

> The calls look something like this:
>
>     cred = prepare_creds()
>         security_prepare_creds()
>             call_int_hook(cred_prepare, ...
>     if (cred)
>         create_user_ns(cred)
>
> We noticed that error codes were not propagated from this hook and
> introduced a patch [1] to propagate those errors.
>
> The discussion notes that security_prepare_creds()
> is not appropriate for MAC policies, and instead the hook is
> meant for LSM authors to prepare credentials for mutation. [2]
>
> Ultimately, we concluded that a better course of action is to introduce
> a new security hook for LSM authors. [3]
>
> This patch set first introduces a new security_create_user_ns() function
> and userns_create LSM hook, then marks the hook as sleepable in BPF.
>
> Links:
> 1. https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220608150942.776446-1-fred@cloudflare.com/
> 2. https://lore.kernel.org/all/87y1xzyhub.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org/
> 3. https://lore.kernel.org/all/9fe9cd9f-1ded-a179-8ded-5fde8960a586@cloudflare.com/
>
> Past discussions:
> V3: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220721172808.585539-1-fred@cloudflare.com/
> V2: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220707223228.1940249-1-fred@cloudflare.com/
> V1: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220621233939.993579-1-fred@cloudflare.com/
>
> Changes since v3:
> - Explicitly set CAP_SYS_ADMIN to test namespace is created given
>   permission
> - Simplify BPF test to use sleepable hook only
> - Prefer unshare() over clone() for tests
> Changes since v2:
> - Rename create_user_ns hook to userns_create
> - Use user_namespace as an object opposed to a generic namespace object
> - s/domB_t/domA_t in commit message
> Changes since v1:
> - Add selftests/bpf: Add tests verifying bpf lsm create_user_ns hook patch
> - Add selinux: Implement create_user_ns hook patch
> - Change function signature of security_create_user_ns() to only take
>   struct cred
> - Move security_create_user_ns() call after id mapping check in
>   create_user_ns()
> - Update documentation to reflect changes
>
> Frederick Lawler (4):
>   security, lsm: Introduce security_create_user_ns()
>   bpf-lsm: Make bpf_lsm_userns_create() sleepable
>   selftests/bpf: Add tests verifying bpf lsm userns_create hook
>   selinux: Implement userns_create hook
>
>  include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h                 |   1 +
>  include/linux/lsm_hooks.h                     |   4 +
>  include/linux/security.h                      |   6 ++
>  kernel/bpf/bpf_lsm.c                          |   1 +
>  kernel/user_namespace.c                       |   5 +
>  security/security.c                           |   5 +
>  security/selinux/hooks.c                      |   9 ++
>  security/selinux/include/classmap.h           |   2 +
>  .../selftests/bpf/prog_tests/deny_namespace.c | 102 ++++++++++++++++++
>  .../selftests/bpf/progs/test_deny_namespace.c |  33 ++++++
>  10 files changed, 168 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/prog_tests/deny_namespace.c
>  create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/progs/test_deny_namespace.c

Eric