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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] cat-file: mention --unordered along with --batch-all-objects
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 09:54:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf34ey5a.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YV+tXVWVuy/rZn/l@coredump.intra.peff.net>


On Thu, Oct 07 2021, Jeff King wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 07, 2021 at 12:18:45PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>
>> >> The usage of OPT_CMDMODE() in "cat-file"[1] was added in parallel with
>> >> the development of[3] the --batch-all-objects option[4], so we've
>> >> since grown[5] checks that it can't be combined with other command
>> >> modes, when it should just be made a top-level command-mode
>> >> instead. It doesn't combine with --filters, --textconv etc.
>> >
>> > This is not right. --batch-all-objects does not provide a mode exclusive
>> > with "-t", etc, by itself.
>> 
>> Yes it does. See the "if (opt) {" branch on master. We just don't
>> implement it via a cmdmode, but --batch-all-objects can definitely be a
>> CMDMODE (I see you found that out below...)
>
> I agree that if you make it a CMDMODE it does not introduce any bugs.
> But it is semantically confusing. You would not make, say, --buffer a
> CMDMODE option. It is a flag which only takes effect under certain
> modes. And the same is true of --batch-all-objects, which modifies the
> batch cmd modes.
>
> In fact, it _would_ be a bug to make it a CMDMODE if --batch were
> correctly marked as one (but it is not sufficient to reason the other
> way; --batch without --batch-all-objects is still mutually exclusive
> with -t, etc).
>
 > What really makes things confusing, IMHO, is the --textconv and --filter
> options. They are marked as CMDMODEs, and they are indeed mutually
> exclusive with -t, etc. But they also work with --batch, which is itself
> a different mode.
>
> So I don't think OPT_CMDMODE could ever present this complete set of
> rules, because they are not all mutually exclusive with each other. But
> I think calling "--batch-all-objects" a mode is just muddying the waters
> even further.

I think we've got some different understanding of what a CMDMODE
means. --batch-all-objects should be a cmdmode, but --batch, --buffer
etc. can't be. Similarly it's not a bug that --filters and --textconv
are cmdmodes, but you think that's bad.

I think it's fair to say that you think this because "the batch mode" is
a ... mode, that cat-file operates in, therefore it's weird that we
don't call it a "command", but that when you're doing "cat-file --batch
--textconv[...]" you're in "textconv mode" or whatever.

I agree that it's a bit weird. But OPT_CMDMODE() under the hood is just
a way to label N options as being mutually exclusive with each other,
and not needing to follow-up parse_options() with a bunch of "die() if x
&& y" etc.

So both in terms of code clarity and to enable later clever use of
parse_options() I think just squinting a bit and reading it as
s/OPT_CMDMODE/OPT_MUTUALLY_EXCLUSIVE_WITH_OTHER_SUCH/ makes the most
sense.

E.g. for any command-mode we should be able to teach the completion that:

    git cat-file --batch-all-objects --<tab>

Should only complete those options that go with it. We don't have that
full picture yet (since we just have cmdmode, but no way to say A goes
with B and C, but not D), but a rough working start at that is to
exclude all the other cmdmode options.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-08  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-05 20:29 [PATCH 0/5] cat-file replace handling and optimization Jeff King
2021-10-05 20:30 ` [PATCH 1/5] t1006: clean up broken objects Jeff King
2021-10-05 20:31 ` [PATCH 2/5] cat-file: mention --unordered along with --batch-all-objects Jeff King
2021-10-05 21:02   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-05 21:41     ` Jeff King
2021-10-06  9:02       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-06 16:15         ` Jeff King
2021-10-07 10:18           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-08  2:30             ` Jeff King
2021-10-08  7:54               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2021-10-08 20:34                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-08 21:44                   ` Jeff King
2021-10-08 22:04                     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-06 21:46                       ` [PATCH 00/10] cat-file: better usage UX & error messages Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-06 21:46                         ` [PATCH 01/10] cat-file tests: test bad usage Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-07  1:07                           ` Eric Sunshine
2021-11-06 21:46                         ` [PATCH 02/10] cat-file tests: test messaging on bad objects/paths Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-06 21:46                         ` [PATCH 03/10] parse-options API: add a usage_msg_optf() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-06 21:46                         ` [PATCH 04/10] cat-file docs: fix SYNOPSIS and "-h" output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-06 21:46                         ` [PATCH 05/10] cat-file: move "usage" variable to cmd_cat_file() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-06 21:46                         ` [PATCH 06/10] cat-file: make --batch-all-objects a CMDMODE Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-07  3:00                           ` Eric Sunshine
2021-11-06 21:46                         ` [PATCH 07/10] cat-file: fix remaining usage bugs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-06 21:47                         ` [PATCH 08/10] cat-file: correct and improve usage information Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-06 21:47                         ` [PATCH 09/10] object-name.c: don't have GET_OID_ONLY_TO_DIE imply *_QUIETLY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-07  3:05                           ` Eric Sunshine
2021-11-06 21:47                         ` [PATCH 10/10] cat-file: improve --(textconv|filters) disambiguation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 22:19                         ` [PATCH v2 00/10] cat-file: better usage UX & error messages Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 22:19                           ` [PATCH v2 01/10] cat-file tests: test bad usage Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 22:20                           ` [PATCH v2 02/10] cat-file tests: test messaging on bad objects/paths Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 22:20                           ` [PATCH v2 03/10] parse-options API: add a usage_msg_optf() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 22:20                           ` [PATCH v2 04/10] cat-file docs: fix SYNOPSIS and "-h" output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 22:20                           ` [PATCH v2 05/10] cat-file: move "usage" variable to cmd_cat_file() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 22:20                           ` [PATCH v2 06/10] cat-file: make --batch-all-objects a CMDMODE Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 22:20                           ` [PATCH v2 07/10] cat-file: fix remaining usage bugs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 22:20                           ` [PATCH v2 08/10] cat-file: correct and improve usage information Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 22:20                           ` [PATCH v2 09/10] object-name.c: don't have GET_OID_ONLY_TO_DIE imply *_QUIETLY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 22:20                           ` [PATCH v2 10/10] cat-file: improve --(textconv|filters) disambiguation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 19:57                           ` [PATCH v3 00/10] cat-file: better usage UX & error messages Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 19:57                             ` [PATCH v3 01/10] cat-file tests: test bad usage Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 19:57                             ` [PATCH v3 02/10] cat-file tests: test messaging on bad objects/paths Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 19:57                             ` [PATCH v3 03/10] parse-options API: add a usage_msg_optf() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 19:57                             ` [PATCH v3 04/10] cat-file docs: fix SYNOPSIS and "-h" output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 19:57                             ` [PATCH v3 05/10] cat-file: move "usage" variable to cmd_cat_file() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 19:57                             ` [PATCH v3 06/10] cat-file: make --batch-all-objects a CMDMODE Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 19:57                             ` [PATCH v3 07/10] cat-file: fix remaining usage bugs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-06  1:19                               ` Jiang Xin
2021-11-29 19:57                             ` [PATCH v3 08/10] cat-file: correct and improve usage information Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 19:57                             ` [PATCH v3 09/10] object-name.c: don't have GET_OID_ONLY_TO_DIE imply *_QUIETLY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 19:57                             ` [PATCH v3 10/10] cat-file: use GET_OID_ONLY_TO_DIE in --(textconv|filters) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-08 12:34                             ` [PATCH v4 00/10] cat-file: better usage UX & error messages Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-08 12:34                               ` [PATCH v4 01/10] cat-file tests: test bad usage Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-08 12:34                               ` [PATCH v4 02/10] cat-file tests: test messaging on bad objects/paths Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-08 12:34                               ` [PATCH v4 03/10] parse-options API: add a usage_msg_optf() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-08 12:34                               ` [PATCH v4 04/10] cat-file docs: fix SYNOPSIS and "-h" output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-08 12:34                               ` [PATCH v4 05/10] cat-file: move "usage" variable to cmd_cat_file() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-08 12:34                               ` [PATCH v4 06/10] cat-file: make --batch-all-objects a CMDMODE Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-08 12:34                               ` [PATCH v4 07/10] cat-file: fix remaining usage bugs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-20 16:00                                 ` John Cai
2021-12-08 12:34                               ` [PATCH v4 08/10] cat-file: correct and improve usage information Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-08 12:34                               ` [PATCH v4 09/10] object-name.c: don't have GET_OID_ONLY_TO_DIE imply *_QUIETLY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-08 12:34                               ` [PATCH v4 10/10] cat-file: use GET_OID_ONLY_TO_DIE in --(textconv|filters) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  4:12                               ` [PATCH v5 00/10] cat-file: better usage UX & error messages Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  4:12                                 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] cat-file tests: test bad usage Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  4:12                                 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] cat-file tests: test messaging on bad objects/paths Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  4:12                                 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] parse-options API: add a usage_msg_optf() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  4:12                                 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] cat-file docs: fix SYNOPSIS and "-h" output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  4:12                                 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] cat-file: move "usage" variable to cmd_cat_file() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  4:12                                 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] cat-file: make --batch-all-objects a CMDMODE Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  4:13                                 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] cat-file: fix remaining usage bugs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-26  0:31                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-22  4:13                                 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] cat-file: correct and improve usage information Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  4:13                                 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] object-name.c: don't have GET_OID_ONLY_TO_DIE imply *_QUIETLY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-22  4:13                                 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] cat-file: use GET_OID_ONLY_TO_DIE in --(textconv|filters) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28 13:28                                 ` [PATCH v6 00/10] cat-file: better usage UX & error messages Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28 13:28                                   ` [PATCH v6 01/10] cat-file tests: test bad usage Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28 13:28                                   ` [PATCH v6 02/10] cat-file tests: test messaging on bad objects/paths Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28 13:28                                   ` [PATCH v6 03/10] parse-options API: add a usage_msg_optf() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28 13:28                                   ` [PATCH v6 04/10] cat-file docs: fix SYNOPSIS and "-h" output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28 13:28                                   ` [PATCH v6 05/10] cat-file: move "usage" variable to cmd_cat_file() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28 13:28                                   ` [PATCH v6 06/10] cat-file: make --batch-all-objects a CMDMODE Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28 13:28                                   ` [PATCH v6 07/10] cat-file: fix remaining usage bugs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28 13:28                                   ` [PATCH v6 08/10] cat-file: correct and improve usage information Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-08  2:58                                     ` Jiang Xin
2022-01-10 22:08                                       ` [PATCH 0/2] fixups for issues in next-merged ab/cat-file Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-10 22:08                                         ` [PATCH 1/2] cat-file: don't whitespace-pad "(...)" in SYNOPSIS and usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-10 22:08                                         ` [PATCH 2/2] cat-file: s/_/-/ in typo'd usage_msg_optf() message Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-10 22:20                                         ` [PATCH 0/2] fixups for issues in next-merged ab/cat-file Junio C Hamano
2022-01-11 15:48                                         ` Taylor Blau
2022-01-12 18:11                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-28 13:28                                   ` [PATCH v6 09/10] object-name.c: don't have GET_OID_ONLY_TO_DIE imply *_QUIETLY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28 13:28                                   ` [PATCH v6 10/10] cat-file: use GET_OID_ONLY_TO_DIE in --(textconv|filters) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-05 20:36 ` [PATCH 3/5] cat-file: disable refs/replace with --batch-all-objects Jeff King
2021-10-06 20:33   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-10-07 20:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-05 20:36 ` [PATCH 4/5] cat-file: split ordered/unordered batch-all-objects callbacks Jeff King
2021-10-05 20:38 ` [PATCH 5/5] cat-file: use packed_object_info() for --batch-all-objects Jeff King
2021-10-07 20:56   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-08  2:35     ` Jeff King
2021-10-06 20:41 ` [PATCH 0/5] cat-file replace handling and optimization Derrick Stolee
2021-10-07  0:32   ` Jeff King

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