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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/17] Fix "x86/alternatives: Lockdep-enforce text_mutex in text_poke*()"
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:19:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <937f59ca-1d82-f5d9-4734-89680f23a661@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F84CA28B-8BAA-468E-BA85-442E245871E5@zytor.com>

> 
> I think we have three subcases:
> 
> 1. Early, UP, or under stop_machine();
> 2. Atomic and aligned;
> 3. Breakpoint.
> 
> My proposed algorithm should remove the need for a fixup which should help this interface, too.
> 
> The specific alignment needed for #2 is started by the hardware people to be not crossing 16 bytes (NOT a cache line) on any CPU we support SMP on and, of course, being possible to do atomically do on the specific CPU (note that we *can* do a redundantly large store of existing bytes, which adds flexibility.)
> 
> To the best of my knowledge any CPU supporting SSE can do an atomic (for our purposes) aligned 16-byte store via MOVAPS; of course any CPU with cx16 can do it without SSE registers. For older CPUs we may be limited to 8-byte stores (cx8) or even 4-byte stores before we need to use the breakpoint algorithm.
> 

Sending to a restricted list, because I don't actually know how publicly
known this is, but it is known there are operating systems in the field
already which rely on the 16-byte atomicity guarantee.

	-hpa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-17 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-17  0:32 [PATCH 00/17] Merge text_poke fixes and executable lockdowns Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 01/17] Fix "x86/alternatives: Lockdep-enforce text_mutex in text_poke*()" Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  6:47   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17 21:15     ` hpa
2019-01-17 22:39       ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 22:59         ` hpa
2019-01-17 23:14           ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 23:19           ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2019-01-18  2:40             ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-25  9:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-25 18:28     ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 02/17] x86/jump_label: Use text_poke_early() during early init Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 03/17] x86/mm: temporary mm struct Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 04/17] fork: provide a function for copying init_mm Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 05/17] x86/alternative: initializing temporary mm for patching Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 06/17] x86/alternative: use temporary mm for text poking Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17 20:27   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-17 20:27     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-17 20:47     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-17 20:47       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-17 21:43       ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 22:29         ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 22:31         ` hpa
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 07/17] x86/kgdb: avoid redundant comparison of patched code Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 08/17] x86/ftrace: set trampoline pages as executable Rick Edgecombe
2019-02-06 16:22   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-06 17:33     ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-06 17:41       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 09/17] x86/kprobes: Instruction pages initialization enhancements Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  6:51   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 10/17] x86: avoid W^X being broken during modules loading Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 11/17] x86/jump-label: remove support for custom poker Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 12/17] x86/alternative: Remove the return value of text_poke_*() Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 13/17] Add set_alias_ function and x86 implementation Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 14/17] mm: Make hibernate handle unmapped pages Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  9:39   ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-17 22:16     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-01-17 22:16       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-01-17 23:41       ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-17 23:41         ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-17 23:48         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-01-17 23:48           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-01-18  8:16           ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-18  8:16             ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 15/17] vmalloc: New flags for safe vfree on special perms Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 16/17] Plug in new special vfree flag Rick Edgecombe
2019-02-06 16:23   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-07 17:33     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-02-07 17:33       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-02-07 17:49       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-07 17:49         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-07 18:20         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-02-07 18:20           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 17/17] module: Prevent module removal racing with text_poke() Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  7:54   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17 18:07     ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 23:44       ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-01-18  8:23       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17 23:58     ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-01-18  1:15       ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-18 13:32         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17 13:21 ` [PATCH 00/17] Merge text_poke fixes and executable lockdowns Peter Zijlstra

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