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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs-writeback: drop wb->list_lock during blk_finish_plug()
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 09:12:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFyUPuAHrwHewH7356y=tAw=M+o_d0J5CqjjaDMzxN2AEA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150918155956.GZ3816@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> See PREEMPT_ACTIVE being a recursion flag, we set it there so we won't
> preempt while we're already scheduling.

PREEMPT_ACTIVE does more than that. It really is a sign that "this is
not synchronous". It causes the scheduler to ignore the current task
flags (because it might already be TASK_SLEEPING, but we aren't
_actually_ ready to sleep yet) etc.

So no. It's not "you can't be preempted during scheduling". That's the
*normal* preempt count, and all scheduling calls end up setting that
some way (ie "schedule()" just does preempt_disable()).

So I disagree with your notion that it's a recursion flag. It is
absolutely nothing of the sort. It gets set by preemption - and,
somewhat illogically, by cond_resched().

The fact that cond_resched() sets it is *probably* because some of the
callers end up calling it from page fault paths etc, and the same
"ignore TASK_SLEEPING etc" rules apply. But it does mean that
"cond_resched()" is a bit misleaning as a name. It's really a
"cond_preempt()".

                 Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-18 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-11 19:37 [PATCH] fs-writeback: drop wb->list_lock during blk_finish_plug() Chris Mason
2015-09-11 20:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-11 20:37   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-11 20:40     ` Josef Bacik
2015-09-11 21:04       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-11 22:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-11 23:16           ` Chris Mason
2015-09-11 23:36             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-12  0:52               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-12  2:15                 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-12  2:27                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-12 23:00               ` Chris Mason
2015-09-12 23:29                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-12 23:46                   ` Chris Mason
2015-09-13 13:12                     ` Chris Mason
2015-09-13 22:56                       ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-13 23:12                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-14 20:06                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-16 15:16                     ` Chris Mason
2015-09-16 19:58                       ` Jan Kara
2015-09-16 20:00                         ` Chris Mason
2015-09-16 22:07                           ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17  0:37                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17  1:12                               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-17  2:14                                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 19:39                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-17 22:42                                     ` Chris Mason
2015-09-17 23:08                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-17 23:56                                         ` Chris Mason
2015-09-18  0:37                                           ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-18  1:50                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-18  5:40                                               ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-18  6:04                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-18  6:06                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-18 14:21                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2015-09-18 13:16                                                   ` Chris Mason
2015-09-18 14:23                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2015-09-18 15:32                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-18 15:59                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-18 16:02                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-18 16:12                                                           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2015-09-28 14:47                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-28 16:08                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-29  7:55                                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-18 22:17                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-21  9:24                                                     ` Jan Kara
2015-09-21  9:24                                                       ` Jan Kara
2015-09-21 20:21                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2015-09-21 20:21                                                         ` Andrew Morton
2015-09-17 23:03                                   ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 23:13                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-17  3:48                               ` Chris Mason
2015-09-17  4:30                                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-17 12:13                                   ` Chris Mason
2015-09-11 23:06         ` Chris Mason
2015-09-11 23:13           ` Linus Torvalds
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-09-09 15:23 Chris Mason
2015-09-11 18:49 ` Jens Axboe

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