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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf v1 0/5] More fixes for crashes due to bad PTR_TO_BTF_ID reg->off
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 19:59:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQJF8yQgKRQH2CqXuB9JR-p3fQeiGRxB0+N_V7uTH2iOeA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220222032125.py5vawh6pfcej4rb@apollo.legion>

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 7:21 PM Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
<memxor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 02:15:37AM IST, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 6:59 PM Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
> > <memxor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 07:48:08AM IST, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 05:40:35PM +0530, Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 05:07:39PM IST, Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi wrote:
> > > > > > A few more fixes for bad PTR_TO_BTF_ID reg->off being accepted in places, that
> > > > > > can lead to the kernel crashing. Noticed while making sure my own series for BTF
> > > > > > ID pointer in map won't allow stores for pointers with incorrect offsets.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I include one example where d_path can crash even if you NULL check
> > > > > > PTR_TO_BTF_ID, and one example of how missing NULL check in helper taking
> > > > > > PTR_TO_BTF_ID (like bpf_sock_from_file) is a real problem, see the selftest
> > > > > > patch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The &f->f_path becomes NULL + offset in case f is NULL, circumventing NULL
> > > > > > checks in existing helpers. The only thing needed to trigger this finding an
> > > > > > object that embeds the object of interest, and then somehow obtaining a NULL
> > > > > > PTR_TO_BTF_ID to it (not hard, esp. due to exception handler for PROBE_MEM loads
> > > > > > writing 0 to destination register).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, for the case of patch 2, it is allowed in my series since the next load
> > > > > > of the bad pointer stored using:
> > > > > >   struct file *f = ...; // some pointer walking returning NULL pointer
> > > > > >   map_val->ptr = &f->f_path; // ptr being struct path *
> > > > > > ... would be marked as PTR_UNTRUSTED, so it won't be allowed to be passed into
> > > > > > the kernel, and hence can be permitted. In referenced case, the PTR_TO_BTF_ID
> > > > > > should not be NULL anyway. kptr_get style helper takes PTR_TO_MAP_VALUE in
> > > > > > referenced ptr case only, so the load either yields NULL or RCU protected
> > > > > > pointer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tests for patch 1 depend on fixup_kfunc_btf_id in test_verifier, hence will be
> > > > > > sent after merge window opens, some other changes after bpf tree merges into
> > > > > > bpf-next, but all pending ones can be seen here [0]. Tests for patch 2 are
> > > > > > included, and try to trigger crash without the fix, but it's not 100% reliable.
> > > > > > We may need special testing helpers or kfuncs to make it thorough, but wanted to
> > > > > > wait before getting feedback.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Issue fixed by patch 2 is a bit more broader in scope, and would require proper
> > > > > > discussion (before being applied) on the correct way forward, as it is
> > > > > > technically backwards incompatible change, but hopefully never breaks real
> > > > > > programs, only malicious or already incorrect ones.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, please suggest the right "Fixes" tag for patch 2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for patch 3 (selftest), please suggest a better way to get a certain type of
> > > > > > PTR_TO_BTF_ID which can be NULL or NULL+offset. Can we add kfuncs for testing
> > > > > > that return such pointers and make them available to e.g. TC progs, if the fix
> > > > > > in patch 2 is acceptable?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   [0]: https://github.com/kkdwivedi/linux/commits/fixes-bpf-next
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking at BPF CI [1], it seems it surfaces another problem I was seeing locally
> > > > > but couldn't craft a reliable test case for, that it forms a non-NULL but
> > > > > invalid pointer using pointer walking, in some cases RCU read lock provides
> > > > > protection for those cases, but not all (esp. if kernel doesn't clear the old
> > > > > pointer that was in use before, and has it sitting in some location). RDI (arg1)
> > > > > seems to be pointing somewhere behind the faulting address, which means the
> > > > > &f->f_path is bad.
> > > > >
> > > > > But this requires a larger discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > In that case, PAGE_SIZE thing won't help. We may have to introduce a PTR_BPF_REF
> > > > > flag (e.g. set for ctx args of tracing progs, set based on BTF tagging in other
> > > > > places) which tells the verifier that the pointer for the duration of program
> > > > > will be valid, so it can be passed into helpers.
> > > > >
> > > > > So for cases like &f->f_path it will work, since file + off will still have
> > > > > PTR_BPF_REF set in reg state. In case of pointer walking, where dst_reg state
> > > > > is updated on walk, we may have to explicitly tag members where PTR_BPF_REF can
> > > > > be inherited if parent object has PTR_BPF_REF (i.e. ref to parent implies ref to
> > > > > child cases).
> > > > >
> > > > > Something like:
> > > > >
> > > > > struct foo {
> > > > >     ...
> > > > >     struct bar __bpf_ref *p;
> > > > >     struct baz *q;
> > > > >     ...
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > ... then if getting:
> > > > >
> > > > >     struct foo *f = ...; // PTR_TO_BTF_ID | PTR_BPF_REF
> > > > >     struct bar *p = f->p; // Inherits PTR_BPF_REF
> > > > >     struct baz *q = f->q; // Does not inherit PTR_BPF_REF
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > >   [1]: https://github.com/kernel-patches/bpf/runs/5258413028?check_suite_focus=true
> > > >
> > > > fd_array wasn't zero initialized at alloc time, so it contains garbage.
> > > > fd_array[63] read that garbage.
> > > > So patches 2 and 3 don't help.
> > > > The 'fixes' list for patch 3 is ridiculous. No need.
> > > > Pls drop patch 2 and in instead of
> > > > +#define bpf_ptr_is_invalid(p) (unlikely((unsigned long)(p) < PAGE_SIZE))
> > > > do static inline function that checks
> > > > if ((unsigned long)p < user_addr_max())
> > >
> > > This prevents this specific case, but what happens when PTR_TO_BTF_ID can be
> > > formed to an already freed object (which seems even more likely to me in
> > > sleepable progs, because typical RCU grace period won't wait for us)? Or even
> > > just reading from structures which don't clear pointers they have freed, but are
> > > themselves not freed (so exception handling zeroing dst reg won't kick in).
> >
> > Right. The above check would prevent a class of issues, but not all of them.
> > If kernel code doesn't clear the pointer inside a struct after freeing it
> > it would lead to uaf.
> > Thankfully most of the code is rcu and typical rcu protected pointer
> > usage would replace the pointer before doing call_rcu() to clean it.
> > There are corner cases and we need to gradually close such holes.
> > My point is that it's not a bpf tree material. No need to
> > create panic and do a patch with gadzillion 'fixes' tags.
>
> Ok, I'll drop them, but some stable helpers did miss checking NULL too, e.g.
> bpf_sock_from_file.
>
> > With bpf progs calling kfuncs there is a possibility of a crash.
>
> This is not just limited to kfuncs.
>
> Apart from BPF helpers, just as an example, I was looking at bpf_inode_storage
> last week, that looks suspect to me now; after it has been enabled in sleepable
> progs, __destroy_inode etc. no longer wait for the rcu_read_unlock_trace. So
> many more cases where inode pointer is obtained by following pointer chains
> (e.g. we can just consider fd_array case, where valid file is closed after we
> obtain file->f_inode) which would be prevented due to RCU before, would now be
> problematic.
>
> > We need to eliminate such possibilities when we can.
> > But we're not going to backport hundred patches to old kernels.
> > We will close one hole today and a year later another hole could be found.
> > We'll close it too, but we are not going to backport a year worth of
> > verifier patches.
>
> Ok, understood.
>
> I will target bpf-next going forward, but since you agree this needs to be
> fixed, it seems to me we need to bring in a hammer and mark all PTR_TO_BTF_ID
> not obtained from known 'safe' contexts as e.g. PTR_UNTRUSTED, so that they can
> only be dereferenced. But we can clear the untrusted flag for cases where we
> know it is guaranteed to be a valid pointer, e.g. say LSM args, atleast for the
> duration of the program lifetime.

That could be an option if it doesn't break existing progs and
doesn't limit usability of pointer walks.
Let's get to it when PTR_UNTRUSTED lands as part of ptr_to_btf_id in a
map series.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-22  3:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-19 11:37 [PATCH bpf v1 0/5] More fixes for crashes due to bad PTR_TO_BTF_ID reg->off Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-19 11:37 ` [PATCH bpf v1 1/5] bpf: Fix kfunc register offset check for PTR_TO_BTF_ID Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-20  2:24   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-02-20  2:49     ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-21 20:36       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-02-22  3:31         ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-22  4:21           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-02-23  3:16             ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-19 11:37 ` [PATCH bpf v1 2/5] bpf: Restrict PTR_TO_BTF_ID offset to PAGE_SIZE when calling helpers Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-19 11:37 ` [PATCH bpf v1 3/5] bpf: Use bpf_ptr_is_invalid for all helpers taking PTR_TO_BTF_ID Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-19 11:37 ` [PATCH bpf v1 4/5] selftests/bpf: Add selftest for PTR_TO_BTF_ID NULL + off case Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-19 11:37 ` [PATCH bpf v1 5/5] selftests/bpf: Adjust verifier selftest for updated message Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-19 12:10 ` [PATCH bpf v1 0/5] More fixes for crashes due to bad PTR_TO_BTF_ID reg->off Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-20  2:18   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-02-20  2:59     ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-21 20:45       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-02-22  3:21         ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-22  3:59           ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2022-02-20  2:26 ` Alexei Starovoitov

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