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From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@unimore.it>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>,
	Kernel-team@fb.com, jmoyer@redhat.com,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 00/11] block-throttle: add .high limit
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 10:04:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdavM0ZGdDjXAsEG1MMy4WuAnudNw9KL8eFJFsfm_ptEBg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161004191427.GG4205@htj.duckdns.org>

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:

> I get that bfq can be a good compromise on most desktop workloads and
> behave reasonably well for some server workloads with the slice
> expiration mechanism but it really isn't an IO resource partitioning
> mechanism.

Not just desktops, also Android phones.

So why not have BFQ as a separate scheduling policy upstream,
alongside CFQ, deadline and noop?

I understand the CPU scheduler people's position that they want
one scheduler for everyone's everyday loads (except RT and
SCHED_DEADLINE) and I guess that is the source of the highlander
"there can be only one" argument, but note this:

kernel/Kconfig.preempt:

config PREEMPT_NONE
        bool "No Forced Preemption (Server)"
config PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY
        bool "Voluntary Kernel Preemption (Desktop)"
config PREEMPT
        bool "Preemptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop)"

We're already doing the per-usecase Kconfig thing for preemption.
But maybe somebody already hates that and want to get rid of it,
I don't know.

Yours,
Linus Walleij

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-10-06  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-03 21:20 [PATCH V3 00/11] block-throttle: add .high limit Shaohua Li
2016-10-03 21:20 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] block-throttle: prepare support multiple limits Shaohua Li
2016-10-03 21:20 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] block-throttle: add .high interface Shaohua Li
2016-10-03 21:20 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] block-throttle: configure bps/iops limit for cgroup in high limit Shaohua Li
2016-10-03 21:20 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] block-throttle: add upgrade logic for LIMIT_HIGH state Shaohua Li
2016-10-03 21:20 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] block-throttle: add downgrade logic Shaohua Li
2016-10-03 21:20 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] blk-throttle: make sure expire time isn't too big Shaohua Li
2016-10-03 21:20 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] blk-throttle: make throtl_slice tunable Shaohua Li
2016-10-03 21:20 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] blk-throttle: detect completed idle cgroup Shaohua Li
2016-10-03 21:20 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] block-throttle: make bandwidth change smooth Shaohua Li
2016-10-03 21:20 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] block-throttle: add a simple idle detection Shaohua Li
2016-10-03 21:20 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] blk-throttle: ignore idle cgroup limit Shaohua Li
2016-10-04 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 00/11] block-throttle: add .high limit Vivek Goyal
2016-10-04 15:56   ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-04 16:22     ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-04 16:27       ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-04 17:01         ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-04 17:28           ` Shaohua Li
2016-10-04 17:43             ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-04 18:28               ` Shaohua Li
2016-10-04 19:49                 ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-04 18:54               ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-04 19:02                 ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-04 19:14                   ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-04 19:29                     ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-04 20:27                       ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-05 12:37                         ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-05 13:12                           ` Vivek Goyal
2016-10-05 14:04                             ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-05 14:49                           ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-05 18:30                             ` Shaohua Li
2016-10-05 19:08                               ` Shaohua Li
2016-10-05 19:57                                 ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-05 20:36                                   ` Shaohua Li
2016-10-06  7:22                                     ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-05 19:47                               ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-05 20:07                                 ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-05 20:46                                 ` Shaohua Li
2016-10-06  7:58                                   ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-06 13:15                                     ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-06 17:49                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2016-10-06 18:01                                         ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-06 18:32                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2016-10-06 20:51                                             ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-06 19:44                                         ` Mark Brown
2016-10-06 19:57                                     ` Shaohua Li
2016-10-06 22:24                                       ` Paolo Valente
     [not found]                         ` <CACsaVZ+AqSXHTRdpdrQQp6PuynEPeB-5YOyweWsenjvuKsD12w@mail.gmail.com>
2016-10-09  1:15                           ` Fwd: " Kyle Sanderson
2016-10-14 16:40                             ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-14 17:13                               ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-14 18:35                                 ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-16 19:02                                   ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-18  5:15                                     ` Kyle Sanderson
2016-10-06  8:04                     ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2016-10-06 11:03                       ` Mark Brown
2016-10-06 11:57                         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-10-06 12:50                           ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-06 13:52                             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-10-06 15:05                               ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-06 15:10                                 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-10-08 10:46                       ` Heinz Diehl
2016-10-04 18:12     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-10-04 18:50       ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-04 18:56         ` Paolo Valente
2016-10-04 17:08   ` Shaohua Li

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