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From: Luc Van Oostenryck <luc.vanoostenryck@gmail.com>
To: Christopher Li <sparse@chrisli.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dibyendu Majumdar <mobile@majumdar.org.uk>,
	Sparse Mailing-list <linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v0 0/4] Give a type to constants too
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 00:34:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAExDi1QJDpWGPkqMfMLk0ky3Yqx-ofTa2xw-QQkRJxqGBaOHEA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANeU7Qmmopaz-+Vf6sQpJ_UTuvXpKxRhmPMKXqO7XGikjF+d=g@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Christopher Li <sparse@chrisli.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> Sorry for not able to join the discussion earlier. I am catching up
> my backlogs of discussion. I have think about this for a while now.
> I think there is one alternative solution is just give set_val instruction
> a size (not type).
>
> reason being:
> 1) Necessary for CSE as well.
>    If CSE combine two set_val of different size as one pesudo.
>    and it is used as two different size. That is likely a bug.

Absolutely not.
Anyway, currectlyeach distinct value correspond to a *single/unique*
pseudo. IN other words, there is no need to do any kind of CSE on
*values*, they are already kinda pre-CSEed at their creation
(because a constant value is nothing more than this value).

Sorry, this has been tried and discussed already. It doesn't really work.
* a size is essentially a type, certainly for integers in sparse IR.
* A constant is a constant, 1 is 1, when it has 1 bit or 64 bits, it's the same
  constant and follow the same mathematical rules. It's even not signed or
  unsigned, it's just 1.
* in sparse, types are conveyed by the *operations* made on their operands.
  There are lots of good reasons for this. Trying to do the opposite for these
  constants will just break a lot of things, duplicate a lot of code
(try it) and
  bring confusion everywhere (because of simply using the operation you
  then need at each time check the type of the operands. It's something
  we want to avoid (like for the discussion about casts we had yesterday)
  not something we want to add).
* the OP_PUSH instructions do a perfect job of giving a type to functions
  arguments
* the OP_PUSH instructions also nicely abstract away the *operation* of
  argument passing that all architectures have. It's a good thing.

-- Luc

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-10 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-11 15:47 [RFC v0 0/4] Give a type to constants too Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-03-11 15:47 ` [PATCH v0 1/4] be more careful with concat_user_list() Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-04-27 22:41   ` Christopher Li
2017-03-11 15:47 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] make space for PSEUDO_VAL have a type Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-03-11 15:47 ` [PATCH v0 3/4] add helper pseudo_type() Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-03-11 15:47 ` [PATCH v0 4/4] give a type to PSEUDO_VALs Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-03-12 20:30 ` [RFC v0 0/4] Give a type to constants, considered harmful Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-03-12 22:25   ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2017-03-16 17:20     ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-03-17 11:03       ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2017-03-16 17:25 ` [RFC v0 0/4] Give a type to constants too Linus Torvalds
2017-03-16 18:04   ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2017-03-16 18:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-16 18:24       ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2017-03-16 18:40         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-16 20:19           ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2017-03-16 20:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-16 21:19               ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-03-16 22:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-16 23:12                   ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-03-16 23:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-17 11:30                       ` [RFC PATCH] use OP_PUSH + OP_CALL Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-08-10 15:25               ` [RFC v0 0/4] Give a type to constants too Christopher Li
2017-08-10 22:34                 ` Luc Van Oostenryck [this message]
2017-08-11  2:14                   ` Christopher Li
2017-08-11 11:21                     ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-08-11 10:28                   ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2017-08-11 11:49                     ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-08-11 12:00                       ` Christopher Li
2017-08-11 12:35                         ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-08-11 12:40                           ` Christopher Li
2017-08-11 12:45                             ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-08-11 12:20                       ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2017-08-11 12:39                         ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2017-08-11 13:16                       ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2017-08-11 11:51                   ` Christopher Li
2017-03-16 20:42   ` Luc Van Oostenryck

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