From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, jmorris@namei.org,
serge@hallyn.com, keescook@chromium.org,
john.johansen@canonical.com, penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp,
stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, mic@digikod.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 00/11] LSM: Three basic syscalls
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 11:58:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHC9VhTjHT-DGKu0=cZPVb=+kMwmbPdr8HiVWJq-yzaDiYk_SA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <468436cf766732a3cfc55d07ad119a6ccdc815c1.camel@huaweicloud.com>
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 3:01 AM Roberto Sassu
<roberto.sassu@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-10-16 at 11:06 -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 8:05 AM Roberto Sassu
> > <roberto.sassu@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, I just noticed LSM_ID_IMA. Since we have the 'integrity' LSM, I
> > > think it should be LSM_ID_INTEGRITY.
> > >
> > > Mimi, all, do you agree? If yes, I send a patch shortly.
> >
> > I believe LSM_ID_IMA is the better option, despite "integrity" already
> > being present in Kconfig and possibly other areas. "IMA" is a
> > specific thing/LSM whereas "integrity" is a property, principle, or
> > quality. Especially as we move forward with promoting IMA as a full
> > and proper LSM, we should work towards referring to it as "IMA" and
> > not "integrity".
> >
> > If anything we should be working to support "IMA" in places where we
> > currently have "integrity" so that we can eventually deprecate
> > "integrity".
>
> Hi Paul
>
> I fully understand your argument. However, 'integrity' has been the
> word to identify the integrity subsystem since long time ago.
>
> Reducing the scope to 'ima' would create some confusion since, while
> 'ima' is associated to integrity, it would not encompass EVM.
Using LSM_ID_IMA to reference the combination of IMA+EVM makes much
more sense to me than using LSM_ID_INTEGRITY, especially as we move
towards promoting IMA+EVM and adopting LSM hooks for integrity
verification, opening the door for other integrity focused LSMs.
--
paul-moore.com
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20230912205658.3432-1-casey.ref@schaufler-ca.com>
2023-09-12 20:56 ` [PATCH v15 00/11] LSM: Three basic syscalls Casey Schaufler
2023-09-12 20:56 ` [PATCH v15 01/11] LSM: Identify modules by more than name Casey Schaufler
2023-09-15 11:32 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-09-15 17:53 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-09-16 6:32 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-09-17 16:38 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-09-20 10:20 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-09-20 15:08 ` Kees Cook
2023-09-23 4:46 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-09-24 1:58 ` Kees Cook
2023-09-24 11:06 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-09-24 19:48 ` Kees Cook
2023-10-05 12:58 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-10-20 19:52 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-10-21 12:20 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-10-21 14:11 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-10-29 10:57 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-10-29 18:00 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-09-12 20:56 ` [PATCH v15 02/11] LSM: Maintain a table of LSM attribute data Casey Schaufler
2023-09-12 20:56 ` [PATCH v15 03/11] proc: Use lsmids instead of lsm names for attrs Casey Schaufler
2023-09-12 20:56 ` [PATCH v15 04/11] LSM: syscalls for current process attributes Casey Schaufler
2023-10-03 14:09 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-06 1:04 ` Paul Moore
2023-10-09 15:36 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-09 16:04 ` Paul Moore
2023-10-10 9:14 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-10 13:10 ` Paul Moore
2023-09-12 20:56 ` [PATCH v15 05/11] LSM: Create lsm_list_modules system call Casey Schaufler
2023-10-03 14:27 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-03-12 10:16 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2024-03-12 13:25 ` Paul Moore
2024-03-12 15:27 ` Casey Schaufler
2024-03-12 17:06 ` Paul Moore
2024-03-12 17:44 ` Casey Schaufler
2024-03-12 18:09 ` Paul Moore
2024-03-12 18:28 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2024-03-12 21:50 ` Kees Cook
2024-03-12 22:06 ` Casey Schaufler
2024-03-12 22:06 ` Paul Moore
2024-03-12 22:17 ` Casey Schaufler
2024-03-12 23:17 ` Paul Moore
2023-09-12 20:56 ` [PATCH v15 06/11] LSM: wireup Linux Security Module syscalls Casey Schaufler
2023-10-03 14:27 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-09-12 20:56 ` [PATCH v15 07/11] LSM: Helpers for attribute names and filling lsm_ctx Casey Schaufler
2023-10-03 14:28 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-09-12 20:56 ` [PATCH v15 08/11] Smack: implement setselfattr and getselfattr hooks Casey Schaufler
2023-10-03 14:28 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-20 19:40 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-10-20 19:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-09-12 20:56 ` [PATCH v15 09/11] AppArmor: Add selfattr hooks Casey Schaufler
2023-09-12 20:56 ` [PATCH v15 10/11] SELinux: " Casey Schaufler
2023-09-12 20:56 ` [PATCH v15 11/11] LSM: selftests for Linux Security Module syscalls Casey Schaufler
2023-10-03 14:28 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-12 22:07 ` [PATCH v15 00/11] LSM: Three basic syscalls Paul Moore
2023-10-13 21:55 ` Paul Moore
2023-10-16 12:04 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-10-16 15:06 ` Paul Moore
2023-10-17 7:01 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-10-17 15:58 ` Paul Moore [this message]
2023-10-17 16:07 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-10-18 9:31 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-10-18 13:09 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-10-18 14:14 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-10-18 16:35 ` Paul Moore
2023-10-18 20:10 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-10-18 20:40 ` Paul Moore
2023-10-19 7:45 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-10-20 16:36 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-10-19 8:49 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-13 4:03 ` Paul Moore
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