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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 bpf 0/4] vmalloc: bpf: introduce VM_ALLOW_HUGE_VMAP
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 23:02:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjYabTPnKiHgVzeKCaRkQaGVunwPbS+QeVb09Bm=YUEow@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiQ5=S3m2+xRbm-1H8fuQwWfQxnO7tHhKg8FjegxzdVaQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:48 PM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> The lagepage thing needs to be opt-in, and needs a lot more care.

Side note: part of the opt-in really should be about the performance impact.

It clearly can be quite noticeable, as outlined by that powerpc case
in commit 8abddd968a30 ("powerpc/64s/radix: Enable huge vmalloc
mappings"), but it presumably is some _particular_ case that actually
matters.

But it's equalyl clearly not the module code/data case, since
__module_alloc() explicitly disables largepages on powerpc.

At a guess, it's one or more of the large hash-table allocations.

And it would actually be interesting to hear *which*one*. From the
'git diff' workload, I'd expect it to be the dentry lookup hash table
- I can't think of anything else that would be vmalloc'ed that would
be remotely interesting - but who knows.

So I think the whole "opt in" isn't _purely_ about the "oh, random
cases are broken for odd reasons, so let's not enable it by default".

I think it would actually be good to literally mark the cases that
matter (and have the performance numbers for those cases).

               Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-21  6:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-15 16:44 [PATCH v4 bpf 0/4] vmalloc: bpf: introduce VM_ALLOW_HUGE_VMAP Song Liu
2022-04-15 16:44 ` [PATCH v4 bpf 1/4] vmalloc: replace VM_NO_HUGE_VMAP with VM_ALLOW_HUGE_VMAP Song Liu
2022-04-15 17:43   ` Rik van Riel
2022-04-15 16:44 ` [PATCH v4 bpf 2/4] page_alloc: use vmalloc_huge for large system hash Song Liu
2022-04-15 17:43   ` Rik van Riel
2022-04-25  7:07     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-25  8:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-25  8:24         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-15 16:44 ` [PATCH v4 bpf 3/4] module: introduce module_alloc_huge Song Liu
2022-04-15 18:06   ` Rik van Riel
2022-06-16 16:10   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-15 16:44 ` [PATCH v4 bpf 4/4] bpf: use module_alloc_huge for bpf_prog_pack Song Liu
2022-04-15 19:05 ` [PATCH v4 bpf 0/4] vmalloc: bpf: introduce VM_ALLOW_HUGE_VMAP Luis Chamberlain
2022-04-16  1:34   ` Song Liu
2022-04-16  1:42     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-04-16  1:43       ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-04-16  5:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-16 19:55     ` Song Liu
2022-04-16 20:30       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-16 22:26         ` Song Liu
2022-04-18 10:06           ` Mike Rapoport
2022-04-19  0:44             ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-04-19  1:56               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-04-19  5:36                 ` Song Liu
2022-04-19 18:42                   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-04-19 19:20                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-20  2:03                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-04-20  2:18                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-20 14:42                           ` Song Liu
2022-04-20 18:28                             ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-04-21  7:29                             ` Song Liu
2022-04-21  3:25                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-21  5:48                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-21  6:02                           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-04-21  9:07                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-21  8:57                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-21 15:44                             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-21 23:30                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-22  0:49                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-22  1:51                                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-22  2:31                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-22  2:57                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-21 15:47                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-04-21 16:15                               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-22  0:12                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-22  2:29                                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-04-22  2:47                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-22 16:54                                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-04-22  3:08                                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-22  4:31                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-22 17:10                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-04-22 20:22                                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-04-22  3:33                                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-21  9:47                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-19 21:24                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-04-19 23:58                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-04-20  7:58                   ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-19 18:20               ` Mike Rapoport
2022-04-24 17:43       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-25  6:48         ` Song Liu
2022-04-21  3:19     ` Nicholas Piggin

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