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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall.oss@gmail.com>
To: Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@suse.com>
Cc: "jgross@suse.com" <jgross@suse.com>,
	"sstabellini@kernel.org" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"wl@xen.org" <wl@xen.org>,
	"andrew.cooper3@citrix.com" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com" <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	"george.dunlap@citrix.com" <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	"jbeulich@suse.com" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Volodymyr Babchuk <Volodymyr_Babchuk@epam.com>,
	"roger.pau@citrix.com" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 1/6] sched: track time spent in IRQ handler
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 23:54:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ=z9a2efn4jvfdjavaE-mkF0nRj5XijcBJX1b+RokcQuBjjsA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0fc7034d696bbc601ccf2bd563ef9fb435499eea.camel@suse.com>

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 21:08, Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2020-06-12 at 13:21 +0100, Julien Grall wrote:
> > On 12/06/2020 12:33, Volodymyr Babchuk wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2020-06-12 at 12:29 +0100, Julien Grall wrote:
> > > > > Basically, this value holds time span between calls to
> > > > > schedule(). This
> > > > > variable gets zeroed out every time scheduler requests for time
> > > > > adjustment value. So, it should not depend on total VM run
> > > > > time.
> > > > This is assuming that the scheduler will be called. With the NULL
> > > > scheduler in place, there is a fair chance this may never be
> > > > called.
> > > >
> >
> Yeah, this is a good point. I mean, I wouldn't be sure about "never",
> as even there, we'd probably have softirqs, tasklets, etc... And I
> still have to look at these patches in more details to figure out
> properly whether they'd help for this.

Unlike x86, Xen doesn't prod another pCPU consistently. :) This was
already discussed in multiple threads in the past (see [1] which not
resolved yet).

So yes, I am pretty confident I can recreate a case where the
scheduling function may never be called on Arm :).

Cheers,

[1] 315740e1-3591-0e11-923a-718e06c36445@arm.com


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-12 22:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-12  0:22 [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] Fair scheduling Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12  0:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/6] sched: track time spent in hypervisor tasks Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12  4:43   ` Jürgen Groß
2020-06-12 11:30     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12 11:40       ` Jürgen Groß
2020-09-24 18:08         ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-09-25 17:22           ` Dario Faggioli
2020-09-25 20:21             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-09-25 21:42               ` Dario Faggioli
2020-06-16 10:10   ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-18  2:50     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-18  6:34       ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-12  0:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/6] sched: track time spent in IRQ handler Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12  4:36   ` Jürgen Groß
2020-06-12 11:26     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12 11:29       ` Julien Grall
2020-06-12 11:33         ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12 12:21           ` Julien Grall
2020-06-12 20:08             ` Dario Faggioli
2020-06-12 22:25               ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12 22:54               ` Julien Grall [this message]
2020-06-16 10:06   ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-12  0:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/6] sched, credit2: improve scheduler fairness Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12  4:51   ` Jürgen Groß
2020-06-12 11:38     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12  0:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 5/6] tools: xentop: show time spent in IRQ and HYP states Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12  0:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 6/6] trace: add fair scheduling trace events Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12  0:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/6] xentop: collect IRQ and HYP time statistics Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12  4:57   ` Jürgen Groß
2020-06-12 11:44     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12 12:45       ` Julien Grall
2020-06-12 22:16         ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-18 20:24         ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-18 20:34           ` Julien Grall
2020-06-18 23:35             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-12 12:29     ` Julien Grall
2020-06-12 12:41       ` Jürgen Groß
2020-06-12 15:29         ` Dario Faggioli
2020-06-12 22:27           ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-13  6:22             ` Jürgen Groß
2020-06-18  2:58               ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2020-06-18 15:17                 ` Julien Grall
2020-06-18 15:23                   ` Jan Beulich

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