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From: Vincent MAILHOL <mailhol.vincent@wanadoo.fr>
To: Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>,
	linux-can@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Max Staudt <max@enpas.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 16:04:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMZ6RqJ3sXYUOpw7hEfDzj14H-vXK_i+eYojBk2Lq=h=7cm7Jg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220517060821.akuqbqxro34tj7x6@pengutronix.de>

On Tue. 17 May 2022 at 15:08, Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de> wrote:
> On 17.05.2022 10:50:16, Vincent MAILHOL wrote:
> > > would it probably make sense to
> > > introduce a new can-skb module that could be used by all CAN
> > > virtual/software interfaces?
> > >
> > > Or some other split-up ... any idea?
> >
> > My concern is: what would be the merrit? If we do not split, the users
> > of slcan and v(x)can would have to load the can-dev module which will
> > be slightly bloated for their use, but is this really an issue?
>
> If you use modprobe all required modules are loaded automatically.

Yes, this, now I know. In the past, when I started developing
etas_es58x as an out of tree module (which I inserted using insmod),
it took me a little time to figure out the dependencies tree and which
module I actually had to modprobe separately.

> > I do
> > not see how this can become a performance bottleneck, so what is the
> > problem?
> > I could also argue that most of the devices do not depend on
> > rx-offload.o. So should we also split this one out of can-dev on the
> > same basis and add another module dependency?
>
> We can add a non user visible Kconfig symbol for rx-offload and let the
> drivers that need it do a "select" on it. If selected the rx-offload
> would be compiled into to can-dev module.

Yes, and this remark also applies to can-skb I think.

So slcan, v(x)can and can-dev will select can-skb, and some of the
hardware drivers (still have to figure out the list) will select
can-rx-offload (other dependencies will stay as it is today).

I think that splitting the current can-dev into can-skb + can-dev +
can-rx-offload is enough. Please let me know if you see a need for
more.

> > The benefit (not having to load a bloated module for three drivers)
> > does not outweigh the added complexity: all hardware modules will have
> > one additional modprobe dependency on the tiny can-skb module.
> >
> > But as said above, I am not fully opposed to the split, I am just
> > strongly divided. If we go for the split, creating a can-skb module is
> > the natural and only option I see.
> > If the above argument does not convince you, I will send a v3 with that split.

If both you and Oliver prefer the split, then split it would be!

Because this topic is related to Kbuild, there is actually one thing
which bothered me but which I never asked: why are all the CAN devices
under "Networking support" and not "Device Drivers" in menuconfig like
everything else? Would it make sense to move our devices under the
"Device Drivers" section? I can do it while working on the v3.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-17  7:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-13 14:23 [PATCH 0/2] can: drop tx skb if the device is in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 14:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] can: move can_dropped_invalid_skb from skb.h to dev.h Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 14:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] can: dev: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 14:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] can: drop tx skb if the device is " Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-13 15:20   ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-13 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 " Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 15:36   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-14  4:20     ` kernel test robot
2022-05-14  5:16       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14  5:16         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14 11:17         ` Max Staudt
2022-05-14 11:17           ` Max Staudt
2022-05-13 15:36   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] can: dev: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 17:40   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] can: drop tx skb if the device is " Max Staudt
2022-05-14  3:00     ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14 14:16 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] can: can_dropped_invalid_skb() and Kbuild changes Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-14 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] can: slcan: use can_dropped_invalid_skb() instead of manual check Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-16 20:40     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-14 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] can: Kconfig: change CAN_DEV into a menuconfig Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-14 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-15 19:17     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17  1:50       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-17  4:12         ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17  6:08         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17  7:04           ` Vincent MAILHOL [this message]
2022-05-17 10:45             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 11:51               ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 12:14                 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 12:21                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 12:39                     ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 13:35                       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 13:43                         ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 14:23                           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 14:35                           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 15:38                             ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 15:50                               ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 17:52                                 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-18 12:03                         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-18 12:12                           ` Device Drivers: (was: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c) Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-18 12:45                             ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 13:10                           ` [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 13:28                             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-18 14:07                               ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-18 14:33                                 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 14:36                                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-18 14:38                                     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 14:55                                       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 15:38                                         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-18 15:48                                           ` Max Staudt
2022-05-18 16:01                                             ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] can: dev: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 1/7] can: Kbuild: rename config symbol CAN_DEV into CAN_NETLINK Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 2/7] can: Kconfig: turn menu "CAN Device Drivers" into a menuconfig using CAN_DEV Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:27     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:30       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 12:43         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 13:46     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 3/7] can: bittiming: move bittiming calculation functions to calc_bittiming.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:25     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:21       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 12:41         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:56           ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 13:51             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:22     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:14       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 5/7] net: Kconfig: move the CAN device menu to the "Device Drivers" section Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 6/7] can: skb: move can_dropped_invalid_skb() and can_skb_headroom_valid() to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 7/7] can: skb: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:46   ` [PATCH v4 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 13:05     ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 13:55       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 14:59         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 15:18           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 16:32             ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-05 10:39               ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-05 13:57                 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-05 18:08                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v5 " Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 1/7] can: Kbuild: rename config symbol CAN_DEV into CAN_NETLINK Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 2/7] can: Kconfig: turn menu "CAN Device Drivers" into a menuconfig using CAN_DEV Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 3/7] can: bittiming: move bittiming calculation functions to calc_bittiming.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-07  8:43     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-06-07  9:27       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-07 16:22         ` Max Staudt
2022-06-07 22:06           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-07 23:40             ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-08  0:07               ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-07 23:43             ` Max Staudt
2022-06-08  0:14               ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-08  0:22                 ` Max Staudt
2022-06-08  1:38                 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 5/7] net: Kconfig: move the CAN device menu to the "Device Drivers" section Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 6/7] can: skb: move can_dropped_invalid_skb() and can_skb_headroom_valid() to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:30   ` [PATCH v5 7/7] can: skb: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-05 17:23   ` [PATCH v5 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Max Staudt
2022-06-05 18:06     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-05 20:46       ` Max Staudt
2022-06-06  0:24         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-06 19:24   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-07  2:49     ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-07  7:13       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-07  8:49         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-07 20:12       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-07 20:27         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-07 20:51           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-07 23:59             ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-08 20:10               ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-10 14:30 ` [PATCH v6 " Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 1/7] can: Kconfig: rename config symbol CAN_DEV into CAN_NETLINK Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 2/7] can: Kconfig: turn menu "CAN Device Drivers" into a menuconfig using CAN_DEV Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 3/7] can: bittiming: move bittiming calculation functions to calc_bittiming.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 5/7] net: Kconfig: move the CAN device menu to the "Device Drivers" section Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 6/7] can: skb: move can_dropped_invalid_skb() and can_skb_headroom_valid() to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 7/7] can: skb: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 21:38   ` [PATCH v6 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-10 22:43   ` Max Staudt
2022-06-11 15:17   ` Marc Kleine-Budde

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