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From: Ben Gardon <bgardon@google.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	Peter Shier <pshier@google.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>, Peter Feiner <pfeiner@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] KVM: selftests: Introduce the dirty log perf test
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 14:17:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANgfPd-cWpZviQJj6p5qUDex8rve7N9kFK0Ym_Qt3DBU7QwqJQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201103011205.GG20600@xz-x1>

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 5:12 PM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 03:56:05PM -0800, Ben Gardon wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 2:21 PM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 04:37:33PM -0700, Ben Gardon wrote:
> > > > The dirty log perf test will time verious dirty logging operations
> > > > (enabling dirty logging, dirtying memory, getting the dirty log,
> > > > clearing the dirty log, and disabling dirty logging) in order to
> > > > quantify dirty logging performance. This test can be used to inform
> > > > future performance improvements to KVM's dirty logging infrastructure.
> > >
> > > One thing to mention is that there're a few patches in the kvm dirty ring
> > > series that reworked the dirty log test quite a bit (to add similar test for
> > > dirty ring).  For example:
> > >
> > >   https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20201023183358.50607-11-peterx@redhat.com/
> > >
> > > Just a FYI if we're going to use separate test programs.  Merging this tests
> > > should benefit in many ways, of course (e.g., dirty ring may directly runnable
> > > with the perf tests too; so we can manually enable this "perf mode" as a new
> > > parameter in dirty_log_test, if possible?), however I don't know how hard -
> > > maybe there's some good reason to keep them separate...
> >
> > Absolutely, we definitely need a performance test for both modes. I'll
> > take a look at the patch you linked and see what it would take to
> > support dirty ring in this test.
>
> That would be highly appreciated.
>
> > Do you think that should be done in this series, or would it make
> > sense to add as a follow up?
>
> To me I slightly lean toward working upon those patches, since we should
> potentially share quite some code there (e.g., the clear dirty log cleanup
> seems necessary, or not easy to add the dirty ring tests anyway).  But current
> one is still ok to me at least as initial version - we should always be more
> tolerant for test cases, aren't we? :)
>
> So maybe we can wait for a 3rd opinion before you change the direction.

I took a look at your patches for dirty ring and dirty logging modes
and thought about this some more.
I think your patch to merge the get and clear dirty log tests is
great, and I can try to include it and build on it in my series as
well if desired. I don't think it would be hard to use the same mode
approach in the dirty log perf test. That said, I think it would be
easier to keep the functional test (dirty_log_test,
clear_dirty_log_test) separate from the performance test because the
dirty log validation is extra time and complexity not needed in the
dirty log perf test. I did try building them in the same test
initially, but it was really ugly. Perhaps a future refactoring could
merge them better.

>
> >
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > +static void run_test(enum vm_guest_mode mode, unsigned long iterations,
> > > > +                  uint64_t phys_offset, int vcpus,
> > > > +                  uint64_t vcpu_memory_bytes, int wr_fract)
> > > > +{
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > +     /* Start the iterations */
> > > > +     iteration = 0;
> > > > +     host_quit = false;
> > > > +
> > > > +     clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, &start);
> > > > +     for (vcpu_id = 0; vcpu_id < vcpus; vcpu_id++) {
> > > > +             pthread_create(&vcpu_threads[vcpu_id], NULL, vcpu_worker,
> > > > +                            &perf_test_args.vcpu_args[vcpu_id]);
> > > > +     }
> > > > +
> > > > +     /* Allow the vCPU to populate memory */
> > > > +     pr_debug("Starting iteration %lu - Populating\n", iteration);
> > > > +     while (READ_ONCE(vcpu_last_completed_iteration[vcpu_id]) != iteration)
> > > > +             pr_debug("Waiting for vcpu_last_completed_iteration == %lu\n",
> > > > +                     iteration);
> > >
> > > Isn't array vcpu_last_completed_iteration[] initialized to all zeros?  If so, I
> > > feel like this "while" won't run as expected to wait for populating mem.
> >
> > I think you are totally right. The array should be initialized to -1,
> > which I realize isn't a uint and unsigned integer overflow is bad, so
> > the array should be converted to ints too.
> > I suppose I didn't catch this because it would just make the
> > populating pass 0 look really short and pass 1 really long. I remember
> > seeing that behavior but not realizing that it was caused by a test
> > bug. I will correct this, thank you for pointing that out.
> >
> > >
> > > The flooding pr_debug() seems a bit scary too if the mem size is huge..  How
> > > about a pr_debug() after the loop (so if we don't see that it means it hanged)?
> >
> > I don't think the number of messages on pr_debug will be proportional
> > to the size of memory, but rather the product of iterations and vCPUs.
> > That said, that's still a lot of messages.
>
> The guest code dirties all pages, and that process is proportional to the size
> of memory, no?
>
> Btw since you mentioned vcpus - I also feel like above chunk should be put into
> the for loop above...

Ooof I misread my code. You're totally right. I'll fix that by
removing the print there.

>
> > My assumption was that if you've gone to the trouble to turn on debug
> > logging, it's easier to comment log lines out than add them, but I'm
> > also happy to just move this to a single message after the loop.
>
> Yah that's subjective too - feel free to keep whatever you prefer.  In all
> cases, hopefully I won't even need to enable pr_debug at all. :)
>
> --
> Peter Xu
>

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-03 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-27 23:37 [PATCH 0/5] Add a dirty logging performance test Ben Gardon
2020-10-27 23:37 ` [PATCH 1/5] KVM: selftests: Factor code out of demand_paging_test Ben Gardon
2020-11-02 21:23   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-02 22:57     ` Ben Gardon
2020-10-27 23:37 ` [PATCH 2/5] KVM: selftests: Remove address rounding in guest code Ben Gardon
2020-11-02 21:25   ` Peter Xu
2020-10-27 23:37 ` [PATCH 3/5] KVM: selftests: Simplify demand_paging_test with timespec_diff_now Ben Gardon
2020-11-02 21:27   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-02 22:59     ` Ben Gardon
2020-10-27 23:37 ` [PATCH 4/5] KVM: selftests: Add wrfract to common guest code Ben Gardon
2020-10-27 23:37 ` [PATCH 5/5] KVM: selftests: Introduce the dirty log perf test Ben Gardon
2020-11-02 22:21   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-02 23:56     ` Ben Gardon
2020-11-03  1:12       ` Peter Xu
2020-11-03 22:17         ` Ben Gardon [this message]
2020-11-03 22:27           ` Peter Xu
2020-11-06 12:48 ` [PATCH 0/5] Add a dirty logging performance test Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-09  9:21   ` Andrew Jones

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