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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: "J. R. Okajima" <hooanon05g@gmail.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@gmail.com>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dongsu Park <dongsu@endocode.com>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@googlemail.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	Alban Crequy <alban.crequy@gmail.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Phil Estes <estesp@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/1] shiftfs: uid/gid shifting bind mount
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:38:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxiyPrzvH-JJaqfqeZZ14=QKyQckW=tvaT6PxmoNJTtqRw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4608.1486351540@jrobl>

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:25 AM, J. R. Okajima <hooanon05g@gmail.com> wrote:
> James Bottomley:
>> This allows any subtree to be uid/gid shifted and bound elsewhere.  It
>         :::
>
> Interesting.
> But I am afraid that the inconsistency problem of the inode numbers will
> happen.
>

Yet another example that overlayfs already is in the process of solving
(it is fixed for stat of merged directory inode).
In fact, fir the case of single layer overlay (as well as shiftfs) the
solution is trivial -
preserve underlying inode st_ino/d_ino and use the overlayed fs st_dev.

> shiftfs_new_inode() uses get_next_ino() which means
> - 1st time: inodeA is created and cached, inumA is assigned
> - after using inodeA, it will be discarded from the cache
> - 2nd time: inodeA is looked-up again, and another inode number (inumB)
>   is assgined.
>
> This inconsistency will not be a problem for the "pure virtual" fs such
> as procfs and sysfs. But your shiftfs is not pure as them. Shiftfs will
> be used as a wrapper (or "binder" which means bind-mount) of an orginary
> filesystem.
> The symptom of this problem from users perspective will be
> - find -inum doesn't work
> - git-status doesn't work, which keeps st_dev and st_ino and compares
>   the current files.
> Of course they will be limited to when the target dir is huge and/or
> system memory is low. As long as the inode cache is large enough to hold
> all necessary inodes, the problem won't happen.
>
> If shiftfs will supports exporting via NFS in the future, the
> consistency of inum will be important too.
>
>
> J. R. Okajima

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-06  6:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-04 19:18 [RFC 0/1] shiftfs: uid/gid shifting filesystem (s_user_ns version) James Bottomley
2017-02-04 19:19 ` [RFC 1/1] shiftfs: uid/gid shifting bind mount James Bottomley
2017-02-05  7:51   ` Amir Goldstein
2017-02-06  1:18     ` James Bottomley
2017-02-06  6:59       ` Amir Goldstein
2017-02-06 14:41         ` James Bottomley
2017-02-14 23:03       ` Vivek Goyal
2017-02-14 23:45         ` James Bottomley
2017-02-15 14:17           ` Vivek Goyal
2017-02-16 15:51             ` James Bottomley
2017-02-16 16:42               ` Vivek Goyal
2017-02-16 16:58                 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-17  1:57                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-17  8:39                     ` Djalal Harouni
2017-02-17 17:19                     ` James Bottomley
2017-02-20  4:24                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-22 12:01                         ` James Bottomley
2017-02-06  3:25   ` J. R. Okajima
2017-02-06  6:38     ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2017-02-06 16:29       ` James Bottomley
2017-02-06  6:46     ` James Bottomley
2017-02-06 14:50       ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-02-06 15:18         ` James Bottomley
2017-02-06 15:38           ` lkml
2017-02-06 17:32             ` James Bottomley
2017-02-06 21:52           ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-07  0:10             ` James Bottomley
2017-02-07  1:35               ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-07 19:01                 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-07 19:47                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-06 16:24       ` J. R. Okajima
2017-02-21  0:48         ` James Bottomley
2017-02-21  2:57           ` J. R. Okajima
2017-02-21  4:07             ` James Bottomley
2017-02-21  4:34               ` J. R. Okajima
2017-02-07  9:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-07  9:39     ` Djalal Harouni
2017-02-07  9:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-07 16:37     ` James Bottomley
2017-02-07 17:59       ` Amir Goldstein
2017-02-07 18:10         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-07 19:02           ` James Bottomley
2017-02-07 19:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-07 20:05               ` James Bottomley
2017-02-07 21:01                 ` Amir Goldstein
2017-02-07 22:25                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-07 23:42                     ` James Bottomley
2017-02-08  6:44                       ` Amir Goldstein
2017-02-08 11:45                         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2017-02-08 14:57                         ` James Bottomley
2017-02-08 15:15                         ` James Bottomley
2017-02-08  1:54               ` Josh Triplett
2017-02-08 15:22                 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-09 10:36                   ` Josh Triplett
2017-02-09 15:34                     ` James Bottomley
2017-02-13 10:15                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-15  9:33                         ` Djalal Harouni
2017-02-15  9:37                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-15 10:04                             ` Djalal Harouni
2017-02-07 18:20         ` James Bottomley
2017-02-07 19:48           ` Djalal Harouni
2017-02-15 20:34   ` Vivek Goyal
2017-02-16 15:56     ` James Bottomley
2017-02-17  2:55       ` Al Viro
2017-02-17 17:34         ` James Bottomley
2017-02-17 20:35           ` Vivek Goyal
2017-02-19  3:24             ` James Bottomley
2017-02-20 19:26               ` Vivek Goyal
2017-02-21  0:38                 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-17  2:29   ` Al Viro
2017-02-17 17:24     ` James Bottomley
2017-02-17 17:51       ` Al Viro
2017-02-17 20:27         ` Vivek Goyal
2017-02-17 20:50         ` James Bottomley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-05-12 19:06 [RFC 0/1] shiftfs: uid/gid shifting filesystem James Bottomley
2016-05-12 19:07 ` [RFC 1/1] shiftfs: uid/gid shifting bind mount James Bottomley
2016-05-16 19:41   ` Serge Hallyn
2016-05-17  2:28     ` James Bottomley
2016-05-17  3:47       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-17 10:23         ` James Bottomley
2016-05-17 20:59           ` James Bottomley
2016-05-19  2:28             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-19 10:53               ` James Bottomley

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