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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>, Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/10] improve reporting of unexpected objects
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 06:43:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YGRSQfMFS14Ksy0o@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r1jym6d0.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 03:34:03PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:

> > But I think it still has the "oops, somebody made a wrong reference much
> > earlier" problem. The actual bug is in some other object entirely, whose
> > identity is long forgotten. I think we would be much better off to say
> > something like "somebody expected X to be a commit, but now somebody
> > else expects it to be a blob", which is all that we can reliably say.
> > And the next step really ought to be running "git fsck" to figure out
> > what is going on (and we should perhaps even say so via advise()).
> 
> Yes I'm totally side-stepping the issue, but I don't see a way around
> that that doesn't make the whole object lookup code either much slower,
> or more complex.
> 
> I.e. the whole thing is an emergent effect of us seeing a tag object,
> and noting in-memory that we saw a given OID of type X, but we don't
> even know if we can look it up at that point, or that it's not type Y.
> 
> I don't think it's guaranteed that we're neatly in one single object
> traversal at that point (e.g. if we're looking at N tags, and only later
> dereferencing their "object" pointers). So passing a "object A which I
> have now says B is a X, assert!" wouldn't work.
> 
> We could eagerly get the object from disk when parsing tags (slow?), or
> have a void* in the object struct or whatever to say "this is the OID
> that claimed you were XYZ" (ew!).
> 
> Or, which I think makes sense here, just don't worry about it and error
> with the limited info we have at hand. Yes we can't report who the
> ultimate culprit is without an fsck, but that's not different than a lot
> of other error() and die() messages in the object code now.

Yes, that "don't worry too much about it" was where my line of thinking
is going. But then I do not see all that much point in your final patch
at all. I.e., I think just changing the message to more clearly say what
we do know in lookup_commit(), etc, would be sufficient.

> So if we're going to emit an advise() that seems generally useful for
> many of those error()/die() messages, and not something we should tack
> onto this incremental improvement to one error.

Yeah, I think doing an advise() is probably overkill. My next step would
always be "run fsck", and I was thinking only that we might point the
user in that direction. But it's probably fine to just emit the error.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-31 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-22  0:33 [PATCH 0/2] Pull objects of various types Daniel Barkalow
2005-06-22  0:35 ` [PATCH 1/2] Parse tags for absent objects Daniel Barkalow
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 0/7] improve reporting of unexpected objects Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13     ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 01/10] object.c: stop supporting len == -1 in type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  5:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-28 15:46           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28 18:25             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-22 18:09               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 02/10] object.c: refactor type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 03/10] object.c: make type_from_string() return "enum object_type" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 04/10] object-file.c: make oid_object_info() " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 05/10] object-name.c: make dependency on object_type order more obvious Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 06/10] tree.c: fix misindentation in parse_tree_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 07/10] object.c: add a utility function for "expected type X, got Y" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 08/10] object.c: add and use oid_is_type_or_die_msg() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 09/10] object tests: add test for unexpected objects in tags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  2:13       ` [PATCH v2 10/10] tag: don't misreport type of tagged objects in errors Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-30  5:50         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-31 11:02           ` Jeff King
2021-03-31 18:05             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-31 18:31             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-31 18:59               ` Jeff King
2021-03-31 20:46                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01  7:54                   ` Jeff King
2021-04-01  8:32                     ` [PATCH] ref-filter: fix NULL check for parse object failure Jeff King
2021-04-01 13:56                       ` [PATCH v2 0/5] mktag tests & fix for-each-ref segfault Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01 13:56                         ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mktag tests: parse out options in helper Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01 13:56                         ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mktag tests: invert --no-strict test Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01 13:56                         ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mktag tests: do fsck on failure Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01 13:56                         ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mktag tests: test for maybe segfaulting for-each-ref Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01 13:56                         ` [PATCH v2 5/5] ref-filter: fix NULL check for parse object failure Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-01 19:19                           ` Ramsay Jones
2021-04-01 19:56                         ` [PATCH v2 0/5] mktag tests & fix for-each-ref segfault Junio C Hamano
2021-04-02 11:37                           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-02 20:51                             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-01 19:52                       ` [PATCH] ref-filter: fix NULL check for parse object failure Junio C Hamano
2021-03-31 18:41             ` [PATCH v2 10/10] tag: don't misreport type of tagged objects in errors Junio C Hamano
2021-03-31 19:00               ` Jeff King
2021-03-28  9:27       ` [PATCH v2 00/10] improve reporting of unexpected objects Jeff King
2021-03-29 13:34         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-31 10:43           ` Jeff King [this message]
2021-04-09  8:07       ` [PATCH 0/2] blob/object.c: trivial readability improvements Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:07         ` [PATCH 1/2] blob.c: remove buffer & size arguments to parse_blob_buffer() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 17:51           ` Jeff King
2021-04-09 22:31             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-10 12:57             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-10 13:01               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-13  8:25               ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:07         ` [PATCH 2/2] object.c: initialize automatic variable in lookup_object() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 17:53           ` Jeff King
2021-04-09 22:32             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-09  8:32         ` [PATCH 0/6] {tag,object}*.c: refactorings + prep for a larger change Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:32           ` [PATCH 1/6] object.c: stop supporting len == -1 in type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 18:06             ` Jeff King
2021-04-09 18:10               ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:32           ` [PATCH 2/6] object.c: remove "gently" argument to type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 18:10             ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:32           ` [PATCH 3/6] object.c: make type_from_string() return "enum object_type" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 18:14             ` Jeff King
2021-04-09 19:42               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 21:29                 ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:32           ` [PATCH 4/6] object-file.c: make oid_object_info() " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 18:24             ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:32           ` [PATCH 5/6] object-name.c: make dependency on object_type order more obvious Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 18:36             ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:32           ` [PATCH 6/6] tag.c: use type_from_string_gently() when parsing tags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09 18:42             ` Jeff King
2021-04-09  8:49           ` [PATCH 0/7] object.c: add and use "is expected" utility function + object_as_type() use Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:49             ` [PATCH 1/7] tree.c: fix misindentation in parse_tree_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:49             ` [PATCH 2/7] object.c: add a utility function for "expected type X, got Y" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:49             ` [PATCH 3/7] object.c: add and use oid_is_type_or_die_msg() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:49             ` [PATCH 4/7] commit-graph: use obj->type, not object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:50             ` [PATCH 5/7] commit.c: don't use deref_tag() -> object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:50             ` [PATCH 6/7] object.c: normalize brace style in object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-09  8:50             ` [PATCH 7/7] object.c: remove "quiet" parameter from object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:36             ` [PATCH v2 0/8] object.c: add and use "is expected" utility function + object_as_type() use Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 1/8] tree.c: fix misindentation in parse_tree_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 2/8] object.c: add a utility function for "expected type X, got Y" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 22:02                 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-04-22  6:10                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 3/8] object.c: add and use oid_is_type_or_die_msg() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 22:07                 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-04-21 23:28                 ` Josh Steadmon
2021-04-28  4:12                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 4/8] commit-graph: use obj->type, not object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 5/8] branch tests: assert lookup_commit_reference_gently() error Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 6/8] commit.c: don't use deref_tag() -> object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 22:26                 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-04-20 13:36               ` [PATCH v2 7/8] object.c: normalize brace style in object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:37               ` [PATCH v2 8/8] object.c: remove "quiet" parameter from object_as_type() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00           ` [PATCH v2 00/10] {tag,object}*.c: refactorings + prep for a larger change Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 01/10] object.c: stop supporting len == -1 in type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 02/10] object.c: remove "gently" argument to type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 03/10] object.c: make type_from_string() return "enum object_type" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 04/10] object-file.c: make oid_object_info() " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 05/10] object-name.c: make dependency on object_type order more obvious Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 06/10] tag.c: use type_from_string_gently() when parsing tags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 07/10] hash-object: pass along type length to object.c Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 08/10] hash-object: refactor nested else/if/if into else if/else if Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 09/10] hash-object: show usage on invalid --type Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 13:00             ` [PATCH v2 10/10] object.c: move type_from_string() code to its last user Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:50         ` [PATCH v2 00/10] object.c et al: tests, small bug fixes etc Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 01/10] cat-file tests: test for bogus type name handling Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  4:15             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 02/10] hash-object tests: more detailed test for invalid type Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 03/10] mktree tests: add test for invalid object type Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 04/10] object-file.c: take type id, not string, in read_object_with_reference() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  4:37             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 05/10] {commit,tree,blob,tag}.c: add a create_{commit,tree,blob,tag}() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  4:45             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-29 12:01               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 06/10] blob.c: remove parse_blob_buffer() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  4:51             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 07/10] object.c: simplify return semantic of parse_object_buffer() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 08/10] object.c: don't go past "len" under die() in type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  4:55             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 09/10] mktree: stop setting *ntr++ to NIL Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  5:01             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:50           ` [PATCH v2 10/10] mktree: emit a more detailed error when the <type> is invalid Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 1/7] object.c: refactor type_from_string_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-08 20:52     ` Taylor Blau
2021-03-09 10:46     ` Jeff King
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 2/7] object.c: make type_from_string() return "enum object_type" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-08 20:56     ` Taylor Blau
2021-03-08 21:48     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 3/7] oid_object_info(): " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-08 21:54     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-08 22:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-09 10:34     ` Jeff King
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 4/7] tree.c: fix misindentation in parse_tree_gently() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 5/7] object.c: add a utility function for "expected type X, got Y" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-08 20:59     ` Taylor Blau
2021-03-08 22:15     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 6/7] object tests: add test for unexpected objects in tags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-09 10:44     ` Jeff King
2021-03-28  1:35       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-28  9:06         ` Jeff King
2021-03-28 15:39           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-29  9:16             ` Jeff King
2021-03-08 20:04   ` [PATCH 7/7] tag: don't misreport type of tagged objects in errors Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2005-06-22  0:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] Pull misc objects Daniel Barkalow

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