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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Stefan Roesch <shr@fb.com>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/13] fs: split off __alloc_page_buffers function
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 00:18:35 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YhScWzgGVyeaufvU@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YhHCVnTYNPrtbu08@casper.infradead.org>

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 04:23:50AM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 11:35:10PM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > Err, hell no.  Please do not add any new functionality to the legacy
> > buffer head code.  If you want new features do that on the
> > non-bufferhead iomap code path only please.
> 
> I think "first convert the block device code from buffer_heads to iomap"
> might be a bit much of a prerequisite.  I think running ext4 on top of a
> block device still requires buffer_heads, for example (I tried to convert
> the block device to use mpage in order to avoid creating buffer_heads
> when possible, and ext4 stopped working.  I didn't try too hard to debug
> it as it was a bit of a distraction at the time).

Oh, I did not spot the users here is the block device.  Which is really
weird, why would anyone do buffered writes to a block devices?  Doing
so is a bit of a data integrity nightmare.

Can we please develop this feature for iomap based file systems first,
and if by then a use case for block devices arises I'll see what we can
do there.  I've been planning to get the block device code to stop using
buffer_heads by default, but taking them into account if used by a
legacy buffer_head user anyway.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-22  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-18 19:57 [PATCH v2 00/13] Support sync buffered writes for io-uring Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] fs: Add flags parameter to __block_write_begin_int Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 19:59   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-18 20:08     ` Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 20:13       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-18 20:14         ` Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 20:22           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-18 20:25             ` Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 20:35               ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-18 20:39                 ` Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] mm: Introduce do_generic_perform_write Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] mm: Add support for async buffered writes Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] fs: split off __alloc_page_buffers function Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 20:42   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-18 20:50     ` Stefan Roesch
2022-02-19  7:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-20  4:23     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-20  4:38       ` Jens Axboe
2022-02-20  4:51         ` Jens Axboe
2022-02-22  8:18       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2022-02-22 23:19         ` Jens Axboe
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] fs: split off __create_empty_buffers function Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] fs: Add gfp_t parameter to create_page_buffers() Stefan Roesch
2022-02-21  0:18   ` kernel test robot
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] fs: add support for async buffered writes Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] io_uring: " Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] io_uring: Add tracepoint for short writes Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] sched: add new fields to task_struct Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] mm: support write throttling for async buffered writes Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] io_uring: " Stefan Roesch
2022-02-18 19:57 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] block: enable async buffered writes for block devices Stefan Roesch
2022-02-20 22:38 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] Support sync buffered writes for io-uring Dave Chinner

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