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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm/gup: fix FOLL_FORCE COW security issue and remove FOLL_COW
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 16:07:50 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YvKwhrjnFQJ7trT1@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wg40EAZofO16Eviaj7mfqDhZ2gVEbvfsMf6gYzspRjYvw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 09, 2022 at 11:59:45AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> But as a very good approximation, the rule is "absolutely no new
> BUG_ON() calls _ever_". Because I really cannot see a single case
> where "proper error handling and WARN_ON_ONCE()" isn't the right
> thing.

Parallel to this discussion I've had ones where people more or less
say

 Since BUG_ON crashes the machine and Linus says that crashing the
 machine is bad, WARN_ON will also crash the machine if you set the
 panic_on_warn parameter, so it is also bad, thus we shouldn't use
 anything.

I've generally maintained that people who set the panic_on_warn *want*
these crashes, because that is the entire point of it. So we should
use WARN_ON with an error recovery for "can't happen" assertions like
these. I think it is what you are saying here.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-09 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-08  7:32 [PATCH v1] mm/gup: fix FOLL_FORCE COW security issue and remove FOLL_COW David Hildenbrand
2022-08-08 16:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 18:45   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 18:59     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 19:07       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-08-09 19:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 21:16         ` David Laight
2022-08-11  7:13       ` [PATCH] sched/all: Change BUG_ON() instances to WARN_ON() Ingo Molnar
2022-08-11 20:43         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-11 21:28           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-11 23:22             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-14  1:10               ` John Hubbard
2022-08-12  9:29           ` [PATCH v2] sched/all: Change all BUG_ON() instances in the scheduler to WARN_ON_ONCE() Ingo Molnar
2022-08-15 14:41             ` Mel Gorman
2022-08-15 22:12               ` John Hubbard
2022-08-16  9:40                 ` Mel Gorman
2022-08-21 11:28               ` Ingo Molnar
2022-08-22  8:40                 ` Mel Gorman
2022-08-12  9:57         ` [tip: sched/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2022-08-09 18:40 ` [PATCH v1] mm/gup: fix FOLL_FORCE COW security issue and remove FOLL_COW Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 18:48   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-09 18:53     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 19:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 19:20       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 19:09   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:06   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:07   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:20       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:30         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:38           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:42           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:20       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:23         ` David Hildenbrand

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