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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Chandan Babu R <chandan.babu@oracle.com>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] locking: Add rwsem_is_write_locked()
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 14:58:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZQBuiJ2n0uBOdjnr@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230912135213.GA22127@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 03:52:13PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 01:28:13PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 11:03:42AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > If not, then sure we can do this; it's not like I managed to get rid of
> > > muteX_is_locked() -- and I actually tried at some point :/
> > > 
> > > And just now I grepped for it, and look what I find:
> > > 
> > > drivers/hid/hid-nintendo.c:     if (unlikely(mutex_is_locked(&ctlr->output_mutex))) {
> > > drivers/nvdimm/btt.c:           if (mutex_is_locked(&arena->err_lock)
> > > 
> > > And there's more :-(
> > 
> > Are these actually abuse?  I looked at these two, and they both seem to
> > be asking "Does somebody else currently have this mutex?" rather than
> > "Do I have this mutex?".
> 
> It's effectively a random number generator in that capacity. Someone
> might have it or might have had it when you looked and no longer have
> it, or might have it now but not when you asked.

Well, no.

                if (mutex_is_locked(&arena->err_lock)
                                || arena->freelist[lane].has_err) {
                        nd_region_release_lane(btt->nd_region, lane);

                        ret = arena_clear_freelist_error(arena, lane);

So that's "Is somebody currently processing an error, or have they
already finished setting an error".  Sure, it's somewhat racy, but
it looks like a performance optimisation, not something that needs
100% accuracy.

The other one's in a similar boat; an optimisation if anyone else is
currently holding this mutex:

        /*
         * Immediately after receiving a report is the most reliable time to
         * send a subcommand to the controller. Wake any subcommand senders
         * waiting for a report.
         */
        if (unlikely(mutex_is_locked(&ctlr->output_mutex))) {
                spin_lock_irqsave(&ctlr->lock, flags);
                ctlr->received_input_report = true;
                spin_unlock_irqrestore(&ctlr->lock, flags);
                wake_up(&ctlr->wait);
        }

Sure, they might not still be holding it, or it may have been grabbed
one clock tick later; that just means they miss out on this optimisation.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-12 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-07 17:47 [PATCH 0/5] Remove the XFS mrlock Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-07 17:47 ` [PATCH 1/5] locking: Add rwsem_is_write_locked() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-07 18:05   ` Waiman Long
2023-09-07 19:33     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-07 21:06       ` Waiman Long
2023-09-07 23:47         ` Waiman Long
2023-09-08  0:44           ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-07 19:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 19:20     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-07 19:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 23:00         ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-08 10:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-10 22:56             ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-10 23:17               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-11  0:55                 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-11  2:15                   ` Waiman Long
2023-09-11 22:29                     ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-12  9:03                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 12:28                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-12 13:52                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 13:58                             ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-09-12 14:23                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 15:27                                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-09-13  8:59                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 14:02                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 23:16                         ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-08  0:01         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-07 17:47 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm: Use rwsem_is_write_locked in mmap_assert_write_locked Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-07 17:47 ` [PATCH 3/5] xfs: Use rwsem_is_write_locked() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-08  9:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-08  9:10     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-07 17:47 ` [PATCH 4/5] xfs: Remove mrlock wrapper Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-09-07 17:47 ` [PATCH 5/5] xfs: Stop using lockdep to assert that locks are held Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)

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