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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Mike Christie <michael.christie@oracle.com>,
	Muneendra Kumar M <muneendra.kumar@broadcom.com>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, jsmart2021@gmail.com,
	emilne@redhat.com, mkumar@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/17] scsi_transport_fc: Added a new rport state FC_PORTSTATE_MARGINAL
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 08:03:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a0cd119c-010d-62a4-13cf-e405d8ae5e43@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8c59834c-e46c-fde3-13d7-b60a82452148@oracle.com>

On 10/19/20 8:55 PM, Mike Christie wrote:
> On 10/19/20 12:31 PM, Muneendra Kumar M wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh yeah, to be clear I meant why try to send it on the marginal path
>>> when you are setting up the path groups so they are not used and only 
>>> the
>>> optimal paths are used.
>>> When the driver/scsi layer fails the IO then the multipath layer will
>>> make sure it goes on a optimal path right so you do not have to worry
>>> about hitting a cmd timeout and firing off the scsi eh.
>>>
>>> However, one other question I had though, is are you setting up
>>> multipathd so the marginal paths are used if the optimal ones were to
>>> fail (like the optimal paths hit a link down, dev_loss_tmo or
>>> fast_io_fail fires, etc) or will they be treated like failed paths?
>>>
>>> So could you end up with 3 groups:
>>>
>>> 1. Active optimal paths
>>> 2. Marginal
>>> 3. failed
>>>
>>> If the paths in 1 move to 3, then does multipathd handle it like a all
>>> paths down or does multipathd switch to #2?
>>>
>>> Actually, marginal path work similar to the ALUA non-optimized state.
>>> Yes, the system can sent I/O to it, but it'd be preferable for the 
>>> I/O to
>>> be moved somewhere else.
>>> If there is no other path (or no better path), yeah, tough.
>>
>>> Hence the answer would be 2)
>>
>>
>> [Muneendra]As Hannes mentioned if there are no active paths, the marginal
>> paths will be moved to normal and the system will send the io.
> What do you mean by normal?
> 
> - You don't mean the the fc remote port state will change to online right?
> 
> - Do you just mean the the marginal path group will become the active 
> group in the dm-multipath layer?

Actually, the latter is what I had in mind.

The paths should stay in 'marginal' until some admin interaction did 
take place.
That would be either a link reset (ie the fabric has been rescanned due 
to an RSCN event), or an admin resetting the state to 'normal' manually.
The daemons should never be moving the port out of 'marginal'.

So it really just influences the path grouping in multipathd, and 
multipath should switch to the marginal path group if all running paths 
are gone.

Cheers,

Hannes
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-20  6:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-15  3:27 [PATCH v3 00/17] scsi: Support to handle Intermittent errors Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 01/17] scsi: Added a new definition in scsi_cmnd.h Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 02/17] scsi: Added a new error code in scsi.h Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 03/17] scsi: No retries on abort success Muneendra
2020-10-16 18:37   ` Mike Christie
2020-10-19 19:05   ` Mike Christie
2020-10-19 19:26     ` Muneendra Kumar M
2020-10-20 19:53       ` Mike Christie
2020-10-20 20:18         ` Mike Christie
2020-10-21 18:51           ` Muneendra Kumar M
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 04/17] scsi: Added routine to set/clear SCMD_NORETRIES_ABORT bit for outstanding io on scsi_dev Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 05/17] scsi_transport_fc: Added a new rport state FC_PORTSTATE_MARGINAL Muneendra
2020-10-16 19:52   ` Mike Christie
2020-10-19 10:47     ` Muneendra Kumar M
2020-10-19 16:10       ` Michael Christie
2020-10-19 16:19         ` Michael Christie
2020-10-19 17:16           ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-10-19 17:31             ` Muneendra Kumar M
2020-10-19 18:55               ` Mike Christie
2020-10-19 19:03                 ` Muneendra Kumar M
2020-10-20 18:24                   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2020-10-20  6:03                 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2020-10-19 18:03             ` Muneendra Kumar M
2020-10-19 18:44               ` Mike Christie
2020-10-19 18:55                 ` Muneendra Kumar M
2020-10-20 16:48                   ` Mike Christie
2020-10-20 17:19                     ` Muneendra Kumar M
2020-10-20 18:44                       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2020-10-20 18:14                   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 06/17] scsi_transport_fc: Added store fucntionality to set the rport port_state using sysfs Muneendra
2020-10-15 14:05   ` kernel test robot
2020-10-15 14:05     ` kernel test robot
2020-10-16 18:34   ` Mike Christie
2020-10-19 10:52     ` Muneendra Kumar M
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 07/17] scsi:lpfc: Added changes to fc_remote_port_chkready Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 08/17] scsi:qla2xx: " Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 09/17] scsi:qedf: " Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 10/17] scsi:libfc: " Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 11/17] scsi:ibmvfc: " Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 12/17] scsi:fnic: " Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 13/17] scsi:bnx2fc: " Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 14/17] scsi:csio: " Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 15/17] scsi:bfa: " Muneendra
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 16/17] scsi:zfcp: " Muneendra
2020-10-22 16:50   ` Benjamin Block
2020-10-15  3:27 ` [PATCH v3 17/17] scsi:mpt: " Muneendra

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