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From: Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Aneesh Kumar K V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Tim C Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Brice Goglin <brice.goglin@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hesham Almatary <hesham.almatary@huawei.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	Jagdish Gediya <jvgediya@linux.ibm.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 01/13] mm/demotion: Add support for explicit memory tiers
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 13:30:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a88bd25fc77252dee4f895f3a9b2c1f6ebb5169e.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48096ad7-ce6d-79b7-1edd-7e6652ab2a4d@linux.ibm.com>

On Mon, 2022-06-13 at 09:01 +0530, Aneesh Kumar K V wrote:
> On 6/13/22 8:52 AM, Ying Huang wrote:
> > Hi, Aneesh,
> > 
> > On Fri, 2022-06-10 at 19:22 +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> > > In the current kernel, memory tiers are defined implicitly via a
> > > demotion path relationship between NUMA nodes, which is created
> > > during the kernel initialization and updated when a NUMA node is
> > > hot-added or hot-removed.  The current implementation puts all
> > > nodes with CPU into the top tier, and builds the tier hierarchy
> > > tier-by-tier by establishing the per-node demotion targets based
> > > on the distances between nodes.
> > > 
> > > This current memory tier kernel interface needs to be improved for
> > > several important use cases,
> > > 
> > > The current tier initialization code always initializes
> > > each memory-only NUMA node into a lower tier.  But a memory-only
> > > NUMA node may have a high performance memory device (e.g. a DRAM
> > > device attached via CXL.mem or a DRAM-backed memory-only node on
> > > a virtual machine) and should be put into a higher tier.
> > > 
> > > The current tier hierarchy always puts CPU nodes into the top
> > > tier. But on a system with HBM or GPU devices, the
> > > memory-only NUMA nodes mapping these devices should be in the
> > > top tier, and DRAM nodes with CPUs are better to be placed into the
> > > next lower tier.
> > > 
> > > With current kernel higher tier node can only be demoted to selected nodes on the
> > > next lower tier as defined by the demotion path, not any other
> > > node from any lower tier.  This strict, hard-coded demotion order
> > > does not work in all use cases (e.g. some use cases may want to
> > > allow cross-socket demotion to another node in the same demotion
> > > tier as a fallback when the preferred demotion node is out of
> > > space), This demotion order is also inconsistent with the page
> > > allocation fallback order when all the nodes in a higher tier are
> > > out of space: The page allocation can fall back to any node from
> > > any lower tier, whereas the demotion order doesn't allow that.
> > > 
> > > The current kernel also don't provide any interfaces for the
> > > userspace to learn about the memory tier hierarchy in order to
> > > optimize its memory allocations.
> > > 
> > > This patch series address the above by defining memory tiers explicitly.
> > > 
> > > This patch introduce explicity memory tiers with ranks. The rank
> > > value of a memory tier is used to derive the demotion order between
> > > NUMA nodes. The memory tiers present in a system can be found at
> > > 
> > > "Rank" is an opaque value. Its absolute value doesn't have any
> > > special meaning. But the rank values of different memtiers can be
> > > compared with each other to determine the memory tier order.
> > > 
> > > For example, if we have 3 memtiers: memtier0, memtier1, memiter2, and
> > > their rank values are 300, 200, 100, then the memory tier order is:
> > > memtier0 -> memtier1 -> memtier2, where memtier0 is the highest tier
> > > and memtier2 is the lowest tier.
> > > 
> > > The rank value of each memtier should be unique.
> > > 
> > > A higher rank memory tier will appear first in the demotion order
> > > than a lower rank memory tier. ie. while reclaim we choose a node
> > > in higher rank memory tier to demote pages to as compared to a node
> > > in a lower rank memory tier.
> > > 
> > > This patchset introduce 3 memory tiers (memtier0, memtier1 and memtier2)
> > > which are created by different kernel subsystems. The default memory
> > > tier created by the kernel is memtier1. Once created these memory tiers
> > > are not destroyed even if they don't have any NUMA nodes assigned to
> > > them.
> > > 
> > > This patch is based on the proposal sent by Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com> at [1].
> > > 
> > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CAAPL-u9Wv+nH1VOZTj=9p9S70Y3Qz3+63EkqncRDdHfubsrjfw@mail.gmail.com
> > > 
> > > /sys/devices/system/memtier/memtierN/
> > > 
> > > The nodes which are part of a specific memory tier can be listed
> > > via
> > > /sys/devices/system/memtier/memtierN/nodelist
> > > 
> > > Suggested-by: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Jagdish Gediya <jvgediya@linux.ibm.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
> > > ---
> > >   include/linux/memory-tiers.h | 20 ++++++++
> > >   mm/Kconfig                   |  3 ++
> > >   mm/Makefile                  |  1 +
> > >   mm/memory-tiers.c            | 89 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >   4 files changed, 113 insertions(+)
> > >   create mode 100644 include/linux/memory-tiers.h
> > >   create mode 100644 mm/memory-tiers.c
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/memory-tiers.h b/include/linux/memory-tiers.h
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..e17f6b4ee177
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/include/linux/memory-tiers.h
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@
> > > +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 */
> > > +#ifndef _LINUX_MEMORY_TIERS_H
> > > +#define _LINUX_MEMORY_TIERS_H
> > > +
> > > +#ifdef CONFIG_TIERED_MEMORY
> > > +
> > > +#define MEMORY_TIER_HBM_GPU	0
> > > +#define MEMORY_TIER_DRAM	1
> > > +#define MEMORY_TIER_PMEM	2
> > > +
> > > +#define MEMORY_RANK_HBM_GPU	300
> > > +#define MEMORY_RANK_DRAM	200
> > > +#define MEMORY_RANK_PMEM	100
> > > +
> > > +#define DEFAULT_MEMORY_TIER	MEMORY_TIER_DRAM
> > > +#define MAX_MEMORY_TIERS  3
> > > +
> > > +#endif	/* CONFIG_TIERED_MEMORY */
> > > +
> > > +#endif
> > > diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
> > > index 169e64192e48..bb5aa585ab41 100644
> > > --- a/mm/Kconfig
> > > +++ b/mm/Kconfig
> > > @@ -614,6 +614,9 @@ config ARCH_ENABLE_HUGEPAGE_MIGRATION
> > >   config ARCH_ENABLE_THP_MIGRATION
> > >   	bool
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > +config TIERED_MEMORY
> > > +	def_bool NUMA
> > > +
> > 
> > As Yang pointed out, why not just use CONFIG_NUMA?  I suspect the
> > added value of CONIFIG_TIRED_MEMORY.
> > 
> 
> I decided to use TIERED_MEMORY to bring more clarity. It should be same 
> now that we have moved CONFIG_MIGRATION dependencies to runtime. IMHO 
> having CONFIG_TIERED_MEMORY is better than using CONFIG_NUMA.

I don't think CONFIG_TIERED_MEMORY bring no much value.  It's better
to use CONFIG_NUMA directly.  But this is just my opinion.

> > >   config HUGETLB_PAGE_SIZE_VARIABLE
> > >   	def_bool n
> > >   	help
> > > diff --git a/mm/Makefile b/mm/Makefile
> > > index 6f9ffa968a1a..482557fbc9d1 100644
> > > --- a/mm/Makefile
> > > +++ b/mm/Makefile
> > > @@ -92,6 +92,7 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_KFENCE) += kfence/
> > >   obj-$(CONFIG_FAILSLAB) += failslab.o
> > >   obj-$(CONFIG_MEMTEST)		+= memtest.o
> > >   obj-$(CONFIG_MIGRATION) += migrate.o
> > > +obj-$(CONFIG_TIERED_MEMORY) += memory-tiers.o
> > >   obj-$(CONFIG_DEVICE_MIGRATION) += migrate_device.o
> > >   obj-$(CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE) += huge_memory.o khugepaged.o
> > >   obj-$(CONFIG_PAGE_COUNTER) += page_counter.o
> > > diff --git a/mm/memory-tiers.c b/mm/memory-tiers.c
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..d9fa955f208e
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/mm/memory-tiers.c
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@
> > > +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > > +#include <linux/types.h>
> > > +#include <linux/nodemask.h>
> > > +#include <linux/slab.h>
> > > +#include <linux/memory-tiers.h>
> > > +
> > > +struct memory_tier {
> > > +	struct list_head list;
> > > +	nodemask_t nodelist;
> > > +	int id;
> > > +	int rank;
> > > +};
> > > +
> > > +static DEFINE_MUTEX(memory_tier_lock);
> > > +static LIST_HEAD(memory_tiers);
> > > +
> > > +/*
> > > + * Keep it simple by having  direct mapping between
> > > + * tier index and rank value.
> > > + */
> > > +static inline int get_rank_from_tier(unsigned int tier)
> > > +{
> > > +	switch (tier) {
> > > +	case MEMORY_TIER_HBM_GPU:
> > > +		return MEMORY_RANK_HBM_GPU;
> > > +	case MEMORY_TIER_DRAM:
> > > +		return MEMORY_RANK_DRAM;
> > > +	case MEMORY_TIER_PMEM:
> > > +		return MEMORY_RANK_PMEM;
> > > +	}
> > > +	return -1;
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static void insert_memory_tier(struct memory_tier *memtier)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct list_head *ent;
> > > +	struct memory_tier *tmp_memtier;
> > > +
> > > +	list_for_each(ent, &memory_tiers) {
> > > +		tmp_memtier = list_entry(ent, struct memory_tier, list);
> > 
> > list_for_each_entry() ?
> > 
> 
> ent variable is used below. Hence I won't be able to use 
> list_for_each_entry.

ent == &tmp_memtier->list ?

> > > +		if (tmp_memtier->rank < memtier->rank) {
> > > +			list_add_tail(&memtier->list, ent);
> > 
> > > +			return;
> > > +		}
> > > +	}
> > > +	list_add_tail(&memtier->list, &memory_tiers);
> > > +}
> > > +
> > 
> > IMHO, the locking requirements are needed here as comments to avoid
> > confusing.
> > 
> 
> All those functions are called with memory_tier_lock_held. Infact all 
> list operations requires that lock held. What details do you suggest we 
> document? I can add extra comment to the mutex itself? Adding locking 
> details to all the functions will be duplicating the same details at 
> multiple places?

memory_tier_lock isn't held to call register_memory_tier() in this
patch.  That will cause confusion.

> > > +static struct memory_tier *register_memory_tier(unsigned int tier,
> > > +						unsigned int rank)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct memory_tier *memtier;
> > > +
> > > +	if (tier >= MAX_MEMORY_TIERS)
> > > +		return ERR_PTR(-EINVAL);
> > > +
> > > +	memtier = kzalloc(sizeof(struct memory_tier), GFP_KERNEL);
> > > +	if (!memtier)
> > > +		return ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM);
> > > +
> > > +	memtier->id   = tier;
> > > +	memtier->rank = rank;
> > > +
> > > +	insert_memory_tier(memtier);
> > > +
> > > +	return memtier;
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static int __init memory_tier_init(void)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct memory_tier *memtier;
> > > +
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * Register only default memory tier to hide all empty
> > > +	 * memory tier from sysfs.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	memtier = register_memory_tier(DEFAULT_MEMORY_TIER,
> > > +				       get_rank_from_tier(DEFAULT_MEMORY_TIER));
> > > +
> > > +	if (IS_ERR(memtier))
> > > +		panic("%s() failed to register memory tier: %ld\n",
> > > +		      __func__, PTR_ERR(memtier));
> > > +
> > > +	/* CPU only nodes are not part of memory tiers. */
> > > +	memtier->nodelist = node_states[N_MEMORY];
> > > +
> > > +	return 0;
> > > +}
> > > +subsys_initcall(memory_tier_init);
> > 

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying



  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-13  5:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-10 13:52 [PATCH v6 00/13] mm/demotion: Memory tiers and demotion Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 01/13] mm/demotion: Add support for explicit memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-13  3:22   ` Ying Huang
2022-06-13  3:31     ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-13  5:30       ` Ying Huang [this message]
2022-06-13 13:16         ` Johannes Weiner
2022-06-13 13:28           ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-14  8:20         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-14 15:13           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 02/13] mm/demotion: Move memory demotion related code Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 03/13] mm/demotion: Return error on write to numa_demotion sysfs Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-13  3:26   ` Ying Huang
2022-06-13  3:35     ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-13  5:33       ` Ying Huang
2022-06-13  5:48         ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-14  8:40           ` Ying Huang
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 04/13] mm/demotion/dax/kmem: Set node's memory tier to MEMORY_TIER_PMEM Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-13  6:59   ` Ying Huang
2022-06-13  7:05     ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 05/13] mm/demotion: Build demotion targets based on explicit memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 06/13] mm/demotion: Expose memory tier details via sysfs Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 07/13] mm/demotion: Add per node memory tier attribute to sysfs Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 08/13] mm/demotion: Add support for memory tier creation from userspace Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 09/13] mm/demotion: Add pg_data_t member to track node memory tier details Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-13  7:07   ` Ying Huang
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 10/13] mm/demotion: Demote pages according to allocation fallback order Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 11/13] mm/demotion: Update node_is_toptier to work with memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 12/13] mm/demotion: Add documentation for memory tiering Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-10 13:52 ` [PATCH v6 13/13] mm/demotion: Add sysfs ABI documentation Aneesh Kumar K.V
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-06-10 13:49 [PATCH v6 00/13] mm/demotion: Memory tiers and demotion Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-10 13:49 ` [PATCH v6 01/13] mm/demotion: Add support for explicit memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V

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