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From: "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
To: "'Peter Zijlstra'" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"'Charles Wang'" <muming.wq@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "'Ingo Molnar'" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"'Charles Wang'" <muming.wq@taobao.com>, "'Tao Ma'" <tm@tao.ma>,
	'含黛' <handai.szj@taobao.com>,
	"'Doug Smythies'" <dsmythies@telus.net>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] sched: Folding nohz load accounting more accurate
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:55:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <004701cd4929$200d4600$6027d200$@net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1339494970.31548.66.camel@twins>

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>  On 2012.06.12 02:56 - 0800 (I think), Peter Zijlstra wrote:

>Also added Doug to CC, hopefully we now have everybody who pokes at this
>stuff.

Thanks.

On my computer, and from a different thread from yesterday, I let
the proposed "wang" patch multiple processes test continue for
another 24 hours. The png file showing the results is attached, also
available at [1].

Conclusion: The proposed "wang" patch is worse for the lower load
conditions, giving higher reported load average errors for the same
conditions. The proposed "wang" patch tends towards a load equal to
the number of processes, independent of the actual load of those
processes.

Interestingly, with the "wang" patch I was able to remove the 10
tick grace period without bad side effects (very minimally tested).

@ Charles or Tao: If I could ask: What is your expected load for your 16
processes case? Because you used to get a reported load average of
< 1, we know that the processes enter and exit idle (sleep) at a high
frequency (as that was only possible way for the older under reporting
issue, at least as far as I know). You said it now reports a load
average of 8 to 10, but that is too low. How many CPU's do you have?
I have been unable to re-create your situation on my test computer
(an i7 CPU).
When I run 16 processes, where each process would use 0.95 of a cpu,
if the system did not become resource limited, I get a reported load
average of about 15 to 16. Kernel = 3.5 RC2. Process sleep frequency
was about 80 Hertz each.

[1]
http://www.smythies.com/~doug/network/load_average/load_processes_wang.html

Doug Smythies


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-13  5:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-09 10:54 [PATCH] sched: Folding nohz load accounting more accurate Charles Wang
2012-06-11 15:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]   ` <4FD6BFC4.1060302@gmail.com>
2012-06-12  8:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-12  9:34   ` Charles Wang
2012-06-12  9:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-13  5:55       ` Doug Smythies [this message]
2012-06-13  7:56         ` Charles Wang
2012-06-14  4:41           ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-14 15:42             ` Charles Wang
2012-06-16  6:42               ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-13  8:16         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-13 15:33           ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-13 21:57             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-14  3:13               ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-18 10:13                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-20 19:24         ` sched: care and feeding of load-avg code (Re: [PATCH] sched: Folding nohz load accounting more accurate) Jonathan Nieder
2012-06-15 14:27       ` [PATCH] sched: Folding nohz load accounting more accurate Charles Wang
2012-06-15 17:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-16 14:53           ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-18  6:41             ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-18 14:41               ` Charles Wang
2012-06-18 10:06           ` Charles Wang
2012-06-18 16:03         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-19  6:08           ` Yong Zhang
2012-06-19  9:18             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-19 15:50               ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-20  9:45                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-21  4:12                   ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-21  6:35                     ` Charles Wang
2012-06-21  8:48                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-22 14:03                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-24 21:45                       ` Doug Smythies
2012-07-03 16:01                         ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-25  2:15                       ` Charles Wang
2012-07-06  6:19                       ` [tip:sched/core] sched/nohz: Rewrite and fix load-avg computation -- again tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-19  6:19           ` [PATCH] sched: Folding nohz load accounting more accurate Doug Smythies
2012-06-19  6:24           ` Charles Wang
2012-06-19  9:57             ` Peter Zijlstra

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