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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
To: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Cc: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/24] xen: tracing: improve Credit2's tickle_check and burn_credits records
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 18:28:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <009c1d23-81ea-8d0b-5e65-d33d32cb3304@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1475169831.5315.47.camel@citrix.com>

On 29/09/16 18:23, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-09-20 at 15:35 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
>> On 17/08/16 18:18, Dario Faggioli wrote:
>>>
>>> In both Credit2's trace records relative to checking
>>> whether we want to preempt a vcpu (in runq_tickle()),
>>> and to credits being burn, make it explicit on which
>>> pcpu the vcpu being considered is running.
>>>
>>> Such information isn't currently available, not even
>>> by looking at on which pcpu the events happen, as we
>>> do both the above operation from a certain pcpu on
>>> vcpus running on different pcpus.
>>
>> But you should be able to tell where a given vcpu is currently
>> running
>> from the runstate changes, right?  Obviously xentrace_format couldn't
>> tell you that, but xenalyze should be able to, unless there were lost
>> trace records on the vcpu in question.
>>
> Well, yes and no. For instance, burn_credits() is not only called from
> csched_schedule(), where indeed we have the information in close
> records. It's also called from inside runq_tickle() itself (as we want
> to update the credits of the various vcpus we are considering
> preempting), which in turns can be called during vcpu wakeup.
> 
> In that case, knowing where a certain vcpu that we're asking to burn
> its credit is running, may mean going quite a bit up in the trace, to
> find its last context switch/runstate change, which is not always the
> easiest thing to do.
> 
> It indeed can be scripted, but when _looking_ at a trace, trying to
> figure out why you're observing this or that weird behavior, I think
> knowing v->processor is a useful information.

But if you're using xenalyze, xenalyze will know where the vcpu is
running / was last run; couldn't you have xenalyze report that
information when dumping the burn_credits record?

Again, I'm just pushing back to make sure the additional trace volume is
actually necessary. :-)

 -George


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Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-17 17:17 [PATCH 00/24] sched: Credit1 and Credit2 improvements... and soft-affinity for Credit2! Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:17 ` [PATCH 01/24] xen: credit1: small optimization in Credit1's tickling logic Dario Faggioli
2016-09-12 15:01   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:17 ` [PATCH 02/24] xen: credit1: fix mask to be used for tickling in Credit1 Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 23:42   ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-12 15:04     ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:17 ` [PATCH 03/24] xen: credit1: return the 'time remaining to the limit' as next timeslice Dario Faggioli
2016-09-12 15:14   ` George Dunlap
2016-09-12 17:00     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-14  9:34       ` George Dunlap
2016-09-14 13:54         ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 04/24] xen: credit2: properly schedule migration of a running vcpu Dario Faggioli
2016-09-12 17:11   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 05/24] xen: credit2: make tickling more deterministic Dario Faggioli
2016-08-31 17:10   ` anshul makkar
2016-09-05 13:47     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-07 12:25       ` anshul makkar
2016-09-13 11:13       ` George Dunlap
2016-09-29 15:24         ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-13 11:28   ` George Dunlap
2016-09-30  2:22     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 06/24] xen: credit2: implement yield() Dario Faggioli
2016-09-13 13:33   ` George Dunlap
2016-09-29 16:05     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 13:25   ` George Dunlap
2016-09-20 13:37     ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 07/24] xen: sched: don't rate limit context switches in case of yields Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 13:32   ` George Dunlap
2016-09-29 16:46     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 08/24] xen: tracing: add trace records for schedule and rate-limiting Dario Faggioli
2016-08-18  0:57   ` Meng Xu
2016-08-18  9:41     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 13:50   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 09/24] xen/tools: tracing: improve tracing of context switches Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 14:08   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 10/24] xen: tracing: improve Credit2's tickle_check and burn_credits records Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 14:35   ` George Dunlap
2016-09-29 17:23     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-29 17:28       ` George Dunlap [this message]
2016-09-29 20:53         ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 11/24] tools: tracing: handle more scheduling related events Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 14:37   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 12/24] xen: libxc: allow to set the ratelimit value online Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 14:43   ` George Dunlap
2016-09-20 14:45     ` Wei Liu
2016-09-28 15:44   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 13/24] libxc: improve error handling of xc Credit1 and Credit2 helpers Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 15:10   ` Wei Liu
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 14/24] libxl: allow to set the ratelimit value online for Credit2 Dario Faggioli
2016-08-22  9:21   ` Ian Jackson
2016-09-05 14:02     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-22  9:28   ` Ian Jackson
2016-09-28 15:37     ` George Dunlap
2016-09-30  1:03     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-28 15:39   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 15/24] xl: " Dario Faggioli
2016-09-28 15:46   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 16/24] xen: sched: factor affinity helpers out of sched_credit.c Dario Faggioli
2016-09-28 15:49   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 17/24] xen: credit2: soft-affinity awareness in runq_tickle() Dario Faggioli
2016-09-01 10:52   ` anshul makkar
2016-09-05 14:55     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-07 13:24       ` anshul makkar
2016-09-07 13:31         ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-28 20:44   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 18/24] xen: credit2: soft-affinity awareness fallback_cpu() and cpu_pick() Dario Faggioli
2016-09-01 11:08   ` anshul makkar
2016-09-05 13:26     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-07 12:52       ` anshul makkar
2016-09-29 11:11   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 19/24] xen: credit2: soft-affinity awareness in load balancing Dario Faggioli
2016-09-02 11:46   ` anshul makkar
2016-09-05 12:49     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 20/24] xen: credit2: kick away vcpus not running within their soft-affinity Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:20 ` [PATCH 21/24] xen: credit2: optimize runq_candidate() a little bit Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:20 ` [PATCH 22/24] xen: credit2: "relax" CSCHED2_MAX_TIMER Dario Faggioli
2016-09-30 15:30   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:20 ` [PATCH 23/24] xen: credit2: optimize runq_tickle() a little bit Dario Faggioli
2016-09-02 12:38   ` anshul makkar
2016-09-05 12:52     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:20 ` [PATCH 24/24] xen: credit2: try to avoid tickling cpus subject to ratelimiting Dario Faggioli
2016-08-18  0:11 ` [PATCH 00/24] sched: Credit1 and Credit2 improvements... and soft-affinity for Credit2! Dario Faggioli
2016-08-18 11:49 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-18 11:53 ` Dario Faggioli

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