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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
Cc: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Stephen Bates <sbates@raithlin.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Ira Weiny <iweiny@intel.com>, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Don Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Jakowski Andrzej <andrzej.jakowski@intel.com>,
	Minturn Dave B <dave.b.minturn@intel.com>,
	Jason Ekstrand <jason@jlekstrand.net>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Xiong Jianxin <jianxin.xiong@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 04/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Introduce pci_p2pdma_should_map_bus() and pci_p2pdma_bus_offset()
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:34:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <044e4f2b-6cb9-7740-622c-ec807bb1a79b@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210324172157.GH2710221@ziepe.ca>

Am 24.03.21 um 18:21 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:27:08AM -0600, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>
>> In this case the WARN_ON is just to guard against misuse of the
>> function. It should never happen unless a developer changes the code in
>> a way that is incorrect. So I think that's the correct use of WARN_ON.
>> Though I might change it to WARN and return, that seems safer.
> Right, WARN_ON and return is the right pattern for an assertion that
> must never happen:
>
>    if (WARN_ON(foo))
>        return -1
>
> Linus wants assertions like this to be able to recover. People runing
> the 'panic on warn' mode want the kernel to stop if it detects an
> internal malfunction.

The only justification I can see for a "panic on warn" is to prevent 
further data loss or warn early about a crash.

We only use a BUG_ON() when the alternative would be to corrupt something.

Christian.

>
> Jason


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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
Cc: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Stephen Bates <sbates@raithlin.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Ira Weiny <iweiny@intel.com>, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Don Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Jakowski Andrzej <andrzej.jakowski@intel.com>,
	Minturn Dave B <dave.b.minturn@intel.com>,
	Jason Ekstrand <jason@jlekstrand.net>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Xiong Jianxin <jianxin.xiong@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 04/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Introduce pci_p2pdma_should_map_bus() and pci_p2pdma_bus_offset()
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:34:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <044e4f2b-6cb9-7740-622c-ec807bb1a79b@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210324172157.GH2710221@ziepe.ca>

Am 24.03.21 um 18:21 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:27:08AM -0600, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>
>> In this case the WARN_ON is just to guard against misuse of the
>> function. It should never happen unless a developer changes the code in
>> a way that is incorrect. So I think that's the correct use of WARN_ON.
>> Though I might change it to WARN and return, that seems safer.
> Right, WARN_ON and return is the right pattern for an assertion that
> must never happen:
>
>    if (WARN_ON(foo))
>        return -1
>
> Linus wants assertions like this to be able to recover. People runing
> the 'panic on warn' mode want the kernel to stop if it detects an
> internal malfunction.

The only justification I can see for a "panic on warn" is to prevent 
further data loss or warn early about a crash.

We only use a BUG_ON() when the alternative would be to corrupt something.

Christian.

>
> Jason


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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
Cc: Minturn Dave B <dave.b.minturn@intel.com>,
	Jakowski Andrzej <andrzej.jakowski@intel.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Ira Weiny <iweiny@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	Stephen Bates <sbates@raithlin.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Jason Ekstrand <jason@jlekstrand.net>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Xiong Jianxin <jianxin.xiong@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 04/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Introduce pci_p2pdma_should_map_bus() and pci_p2pdma_bus_offset()
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:34:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <044e4f2b-6cb9-7740-622c-ec807bb1a79b@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210324172157.GH2710221@ziepe.ca>

Am 24.03.21 um 18:21 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:27:08AM -0600, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>
>> In this case the WARN_ON is just to guard against misuse of the
>> function. It should never happen unless a developer changes the code in
>> a way that is incorrect. So I think that's the correct use of WARN_ON.
>> Though I might change it to WARN and return, that seems safer.
> Right, WARN_ON and return is the right pattern for an assertion that
> must never happen:
>
>    if (WARN_ON(foo))
>        return -1
>
> Linus wants assertions like this to be able to recover. People runing
> the 'panic on warn' mode want the kernel to stop if it detects an
> internal malfunction.

The only justification I can see for a "panic on warn" is to prevent 
further data loss or warn early about a crash.

We only use a BUG_ON() when the alternative would be to corrupt something.

Christian.

>
> Jason

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-24 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-11 23:31 [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] Add support to dma_map_sg for P2PDMA Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Pass gfp_mask flags to upstream_bridge_distance_warn() Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 20:39   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-12 20:39     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-12 20:39     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-12 20:53     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 20:53       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 20:53       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Avoid pci_get_slot() which sleeps Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 20:57   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-12 20:57     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-12 20:57     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-12 21:37     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 21:37       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 21:37       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Attempt to set map_type if it has not been set Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Introduce pci_p2pdma_should_map_bus() and pci_p2pdma_bus_offset() Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-13  1:38   ` Ira Weiny
2021-03-13  1:38     ` Ira Weiny
2021-03-13  1:38     ` Ira Weiny
2021-03-15 16:27     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-15 16:27       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-15 16:27       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-24 17:21       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-24 17:21         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-24 17:21         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-24 18:34         ` Christian König [this message]
2021-03-24 18:34           ` Christian König
2021-03-24 18:34           ` Christian König
2021-03-13  2:32   ` Ira Weiny
2021-03-13  2:32     ` Ira Weiny
2021-03-13  2:32     ` Ira Weiny
2021-03-15 16:30     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-15 16:30       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-15 16:30       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16  8:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/11] lib/scatterlist: Add flag for indicating P2PDMA segments in an SGL Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/11] dma-direct: Support PCI P2PDMA pages in dma-direct map_sg Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 15:52   ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 15:52     ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 15:52     ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 16:24     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 16:24       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 16:24       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 18:11       ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 18:11         ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 18:11         ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 18:27         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 18:27           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 18:27           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16  7:58           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  7:58             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  7:58             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16 15:54             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16 15:54               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16 15:54               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16  7:56         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  7:56           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  7:56           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/11] dma-mapping: Add flags to dma_map_ops to indicate PCI P2PDMA support Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-13  2:36   ` Ira Weiny
2021-03-13  2:36     ` Ira Weiny
2021-03-13  2:36     ` Ira Weiny
2021-03-15 16:33     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-15 16:33       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-15 16:33       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16  8:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:00         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:00         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/11] iommu/dma: Support PCI P2PDMA pages in dma-iommu map_sg Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 15:52   ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 15:52     ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 15:52     ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 17:03     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 17:03       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 17:03       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 19:47       ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 19:47         ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 19:47         ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 20:06         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 20:06           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 20:06           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/11] block: Add BLK_STS_P2PDMA Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16  8:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16 16:02     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16 16:02       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16 16:02       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/11] nvme-pci: Check DMA ops when indicating support for PCI P2PDMA Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/11] nvme-pci: Convert to using dma_map_sg for p2pdma pages Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:59     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:59     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-12  1:37     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12  1:37       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12  1:37       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 15:51 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] Add support to dma_map_sg for P2PDMA Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 15:51   ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 15:51   ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 16:18   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 16:18     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 16:18     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 17:46     ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 17:46       ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 17:46       ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 18:24       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 18:24         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 18:24         ` Logan Gunthorpe

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