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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200512195005.GA96154@mattapan.m5p.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-ClientProxiedBy: AMSPEX02CAS02.citrite.net (10.69.22.113) To AMSPEX02CL02.citrite.net (10.69.22.126) X-BeenThere: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Xen developer discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" , Ian Jackson , Wei Liu , Jan Beulich , Paul Durrant Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Sender: "Xen-devel" On 12/05/2020 20:50, Elliott Mitchell wrote: > [CAUTION - EXTERNAL EMAIL] DO NOT reply, click links, or open attachments unless you have verified the sender and know the content is safe. > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:52:25AM -0400, Jason Andryuk wrote: >> I was just looking to remove perl since it's a large dependency for >> this single use. I'm not tied to a particular approach. > Have you tried to remove Perl from a system? This is possible, but on > many systems there will be hundreds or thousands of other programs which > already cause Perl to be installed. > > Perl doesn't have the mindshare it once did, but it is far from dead. A > new desktop Linux installation might have less than a hundred programs > depending on Perl. A new developer Linux installation will likely have > hundreds of programs depending on Perl. A decades old system like Jan > is testing, there will like thousands. > > Removing dependancies is good. Perhaps this is looking a few years into > the future where Perl is even less common. Not everyone has a fully fat Linux running as dom0.  There are real systems using Xen which have already successfully purged perl. ~Andrew