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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Sergey Dyasli <sergey.dyasli@citrix.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Daniel de Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/13] x86/domctl: Implement XEN_DOMCTL_set_cpumsr_policy
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 18:55:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <04e9687f-3d6a-1bac-49ee-3227bdc5e884@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5B3DE4C102000078001D1655@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>

On 05/07/18 10:28, Jan Beulich wrote:
>
>>>> +    /*
>>>> +     * Audit was successful.  Replace existing policies, leaving the old
>>>> +     * policies to be freed.
>>>> +     */
>>>> +    SWAP(new.cp, d->arch.cpuid);
>>>> +    SWAP(new.dp, d->arch.msr);
>>>> +    SWAP(new.vp, v->arch.msr);
>>>> +
>>>> +    /* Merge the (now audited) vCPU MSRs into every other msr_vcpu_policy. */
>>>> +    for ( ; v; v = v->next_in_list )
>>> This open-coded almost-for_each_domain() doesn't look very nice.
>> ITYM for_each_vcpu()
> Oops, of course.
>
>> And yes, but for_each_vcpu() is wrong to use here, and we don't have a
>> for_each_vcpu_other_than_0() helper.
> Perhaps still better to do
>
>     for_each_vcpu(d, v)
>     {
>         if ( v->vcpu_id == 0 )
>             continue;
>         ...
>     }
>
> ?

Do you think that looks cleaner? I doubt the compiler can optimise that
into my version.

>
>>>> +    {
>>>> +        /* XXX - Figure out how to avoid a TOCTOU race here.  XLAT area? */
>>>> +        if ( (ret = x86_msr_copy_from_buffer(
>>>> +                  NULL, v->arch.msr, xdpc->msr_policy, xdpc->nr_msrs, NULL)) )
>>> Why can't you go from vCPU 0's v->arch.msr here, which is the copied-in
>>> (and sanitized) representation already? Also, is it really a good idea to
>>> assume all vCPU-s have the same policies?
>> There are multiple colliding issues which lead to this code, but as
>> several people have pointed out, its probably over the top.
>>
>> First, as to the same policy.  This hypercall can currently only be used
>> before the vcpu has started executing.
>>
>> As such, it is setting the init state of the MSRs from the guests point
>> of view, and there is exactly one MSR I'm aware of which has an init
>> value which depends on the core (that being APIC_BASE.BSP which can
>> trivially be handled in Xen).  All other MSRs have identical init state
>> AFAICT, and I don't want to create an interface which makes it easy to
>> accidentally end up with wrong values.
> So what about migration? There are certainly differing incoming values
> there. Of course there's the MSRs restore record, but no atomic sanity
> check between those and the policy here is possible.

Migration is still a problem.  This CPUID/MSR work is the next step on
the path to fixing the "state before policy" problem we've got when
restoring a guest.

Once we have a working CPUID and R/O MSR configuration "blob" which the
toolstack can manipulate, we can (in Xen) require that the toolstack
provide the blob before memory and R/W register state.

When we get to that point, the toolstack shall call
DOMCTL_get_cpumsr_policy (modulo whatever plan I device to fix our R/W
MSR from the VCPU state problem) and place this ahead of the main
memory/register state in the migration stream.

The receiving side will either feed the blob back to Xen, or fabricate
the policy out of thin air at this point.  The current behaviour is to
fabricate a policy out of thin air after all migration stream is
complete, but before unpausing the domain.

~Andrew

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-05 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-03 20:55 [PATCH 00/13] x86: CPUID and MSR policy marshalling support Andrew Cooper
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 01/13] libx86: Introduce libx86/cpuid.h Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04  6:54   ` Wei Liu
2018-07-04  8:21   ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-04 12:03     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04 13:57       ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-06  1:35         ` Doug Goldstein
2018-07-06  8:07           ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 02/13] libx86: generate cpuid-autogen.h in the libx86 include dir Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04  7:03   ` Wei Liu
2018-07-04  8:33   ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 03/13] libx86: Share struct cpuid_policy with userspace Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04  7:08   ` Wei Liu
2018-07-04  8:36   ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 04/13] libx86: introduce a libx86 shared library Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04  7:20   ` Wei Liu
2018-07-04  8:42   ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-04 15:48     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 05/13] libx86: Introduce libx86/msr.h and share msr_{domain, vcpu}_policy with userspace Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04  7:21   ` Wei Liu
2018-07-04  8:43   ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 06/13] libx86: Introduce a helper to serialise a cpuid_policy object Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04  8:42   ` Wei Liu
2018-07-04  8:51     ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-04 16:23       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-05  8:09         ` Wei Liu
2018-07-05  8:40         ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-05 13:39           ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-05 14:05             ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-04  9:01   ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-04 16:46     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-05  8:11       ` Wei Liu
2018-07-05 10:21         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-05  8:46       ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-05 13:34         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 07/13] libx86: Introduce a helper to serialise msr_{domain, vcpu}_policy objects Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04  9:16   ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-04 16:56     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-05  8:49       ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 08/13] x86: Collect policies together into groups Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04  9:22   ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-04 17:15     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-05  8:54       ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 09/13] x86/sysctl: Implement XEN_SYSCTL_get_cpumsr_policy Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04  9:43   ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-04 17:57     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-05  9:08       ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-05 14:08         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-05 14:45           ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 10/13] x86/domctl: Implement XEN_DOMCTL_get_cpumsr_policy Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04  9:48   ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-05 14:23   ` Sergey Dyasli
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 11/13] libx86: Introduce a helper to deserialise a cpuid_policy object Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04  9:49   ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 12/13] libx86: introduce a helper to deserialize MSR policies Andrew Cooper
2018-07-03 20:55 ` [PATCH 13/13] x86/domctl: Implement XEN_DOMCTL_set_cpumsr_policy Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04 10:16   ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-04 18:47     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-05  9:28       ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-05 17:55         ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2018-07-06  7:51           ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-06 10:02             ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04 10:18   ` Wei Liu
2018-07-04 10:33     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04  8:17 ` [PATCH 00/13] x86: CPUID and MSR policy marshalling support Jan Beulich
2018-07-04 10:40   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-04 10:44     ` Jan Beulich

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