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From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
To: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 08/26] docs: reporting-bugs: make readers check the taint flag
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 10:47:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <05d06d89-ee79-f551-35a4-616eb3864e95@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7f0b065-b022-7178-f9ba-f05c961ff57e@leemhuis.info>

On 10/3/20 2:56 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> Many thx for you comments. Consider all the obvious spelling and
> grammatical mistakes you pointed out fixed, I won't mention all of them
> in this reply to keep things easier to follow.
> 
> Am 02.10.20 um 19:08 schrieb Randy Dunlap:
>> On 10/1/20 1:39 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> 
>>> +driver, VirtualBox, or other software that installs its own kernel modules: you
>>> +will have to remove these modules and reboot the system, as they might in fact
>>> +be causing the issue you face.
>> You will need to reboot the system and try to reproduce the issue without loading
>> any of these proprietary modules.
> 
> Hmmm. Preventing the Nvidia module from loading without disabling or
> uninstalling the other parts of the graphics driver can easily to a
> situation where the GUI is not starting. And blacklisting all modules
> that VirtualBox needs on the host requires quite a bit of tying at the
> boot loader iirc. So how about this:
> 
> Quite a few kernels are also tainted because an unsuitable kernel module
> was loaded. This for example is the case if you use Nvidia's proprietary
> graphics driver, VirtualBox, or other software that installs its own
> kernel modules, as they might be causing the issue you face. You thus
> have to prevent those modules from loading for the reporting process.
> Most of the time the easiest way to do that is: temporarily uninstall
> such software including any modules they might have installed.
> Afterwards reboot.

Sure, OK.

thanks.
-- 
~Randy


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-03 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-01  8:39 [RFC PATCH v1 00/26] Make reporting-bugs easier to grasp and yet more detailed Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/26] docs: reporting-bugs: temporary markers for licensing and diff reasons Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/26] docs: reporting-bugs: Create a TLDR how to report issues Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-02  2:32   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-03  7:27     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-11 15:24       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12  3:33         ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-12  4:56           ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/26] docs: reporting-bugs: step-by-step guide on " Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-02  3:02   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-03  8:05     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/26] docs: reporting-bugs: step-by-step guide for issues in stable & longterm Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-02  3:25   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-03  8:24     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/26] docs: reporting-bugs: begin reference section providing details Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-02 16:49   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-03  8:27     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/26] docs: reporting-bugs: point out we only care about fresh vanilla kernels Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/26] docs: reporting-bugs: let users classify their issue Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-02 16:59   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-03  9:42     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/26] docs: reporting-bugs: make readers check the taint flag Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-02 17:08   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-03  9:56     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-03 17:47       ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/26] docs: reporting-bugs: help users find the proper place for their report Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-04  4:03   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-07 12:05     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/26] docs: reporting-bugs: remind people to look for existing reports Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-02 17:17   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-03  9:58     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/26] docs: reporting-bugs: remind people to back up their data Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/26] docs: reporting-bugs: tell users to disable DKMS et al Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-02 17:28   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-03  9:59     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/26] docs: reporting-bugs: point out the environment might be causing issue Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-02 17:32   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-03 10:00     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/26] docs: reporting-bugs: make users write notes, one for each issue Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-02 17:35   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-03 10:01     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/26] docs: reporting-bugs: make readers test mainline, but leave a loophole Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-02 17:51   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-03 10:11     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-11 15:36       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12  3:42         ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-12  5:22           ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/26] docs: reporting-bugs: let users check taint status again Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/26] docs: reporting-bugs: explain options if reproducing on mainline fails Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/26] docs: reporting-bugs: let users optimize their notes Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 19/26] docs: reporting-bugs: decode failure messages [need help] Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 20/26] docs: reporting-bugs: instructions for handling regressions Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-04  4:03   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-04  6:31     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 21/26] docs: reporting-bugs: details on writing and sending the report Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-09  2:45   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-09  7:38     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:50 ` [RFC PATCH v1 22/26] docs: reporting-bugs: explain what users should do once the report got out Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-09 17:37   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-11 13:29     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-11 15:06       ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-01  8:50 ` [RFC PATCH v1 23/26] docs: reporting-bugs: details for issues specific to stable and longterm Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-09 18:42   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-11 13:29     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:50 ` [RFC PATCH v1 24/26] docs: reporting-bugs: explain why users might get neither reply nor fix Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-04  4:03   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-04  6:35     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:50 ` [RFC PATCH v1 25/26] docs: reporting-bugs: explain things could be easier Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-04  4:03   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-04  6:36     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-10-01  8:50 ` [RFC PATCH v1 26/26] docs: reporting-bugs: add SPDX tag and license hint, remove markers Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-09 11:01 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/26] Make reporting-bugs easier to grasp and yet more detailed Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-09 18:21   ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-11-10 12:01     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-10  3:23   ` Randy Dunlap

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