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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
Cc: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] blk-mq: implement queue quiesce via percpu_ref for BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:53:29 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <05f75e89-b6f7-de49-eb9f-a08aa4e0ba4f@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200730192701.GC147247@dhcp-10-100-145-180.wdl.wdc.com>

On 7/30/20 1:27 PM, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 11:23:58AM -0700, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I think it will be a significant improvement to have a single code path.
>>>>>> The code will be more robust and we won't need to face issues that are
>>>>>> specific for blocking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the cost is negligible, I think the upside is worth it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> rcu_read_lock and rcu_read_unlock has been proved as efficient enough,
>>>>> and I don't think percpu_refcount is better than it, so I'd suggest to
>>>>> not switch non-blocking into this way.
>>>>
>>>> It's not a matter of which is better, its a matter of making the code
>>>> more robust because it has a single code-path. If moving to percpu_ref
>>>> is negligible, I would suggest to move both, I don't want to have two
>>>> completely different mechanism for blocking vs. non-blocking.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I proposed an hctx percpu_ref over a year ago (but for a
>>> completely different reason), and it was measured as too costly.
>>>
>>>    https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/d4a4b6c0-3ea8-f748-85b0-6b39c5023a6f@kernel.dk/
>>
>> If this is the case, we shouldn't consider this as an alternative at all,
>> and move forward with either the original proposal or what
>> ming proposed to move a counter to the tagset.
> 
> Well, the point I was trying to make is that we shouldn't bother making
> blocking and non-blocking dispatchers use the same synchronization since
> non-blocking has a very cheap solution that blocking can't use.

I fully agree with that point.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-30 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-28 13:49 [RFC PATCH] blk-mq: implement queue quiesce via percpu_ref for BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING Ming Lei
2020-07-29 10:28 ` Ming Lei
2020-07-29 15:42   ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-07-29 15:49     ` Ming Lei
2020-07-29 22:37       ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-07-30 14:53         ` Ming Lei
2020-07-30 16:10           ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-07-30 18:18             ` Keith Busch
2020-07-30 18:23               ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-07-30 19:27                 ` Keith Busch
2020-07-30 19:53                   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2020-07-30 21:03                     ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-07-31  0:33                       ` Ming Lei
2020-07-31  0:24               ` Ming Lei
2020-07-31  0:28             ` Ming Lei
2020-07-29 11:20 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-07-29 16:12 ` Keith Busch
2020-07-29 22:16   ` Ming Lei
2020-07-29 22:42     ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-07-30 15:05       ` Ming Lei

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