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From: J Lovejoy <opensource@jilayne.com>
To: "Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@ebb.org>
Cc: Richard Fontana <rfontana@redhat.com>, linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Meta-question on GPL compliance of this activity
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 10:14:00 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0995848C-11BE-47B1-86F9-F56D43541246@jilayne.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190521210833.veltn74dcgic5zmw@ebb.org>

Richard, 

As you raised this concern and yet I’m noticing you continue to review the patches and sign off, am I correct to assume that you don’t think this is a big concern?

thanks,
Jilayne

> On May 21, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Bradley M. Kuhn <bkuhn@ebb.org> wrote:
> 
> Richard, glad to see you on this list!
> 
> Richard Fontana wrote:
>> I have recently heard the argument that replacing a more or less standard
>> old-school GNU license notice, or any sort of nonstandard pre-SPDX
>> alternative human-oriented notice, with an SPDX license identifier string,
>> without explicit permission from the copyright holder, complies with this
>> condition, because in substance the SPDX string embodies equivalent
>> licensing information (and has benefits of its own over the old-school
>> notice). However, more conservative interpreters of GPLv2, including some
>> copyright holders, might argue otherwise.
> 
> I think we do have to worry about more conservative interpreters, esp. given
> that copyright holders are not giving their consent for these notice changes.
> 
> There was consensus at the meeting in Barcelona that moving all the notices
> to a single file to live inside the Linux tree "somewhere" with entries like:
> 
>   Filenames: a.c, b.c, c.c contained this notice:
>            NOTICE
>      which was replaced with SPDX_IDENTIFIER on DATE.
> 
> and that such was a fine and acceptable way to address even the most
> disagreeable and litigious conservative interpreters, and that such
> was a necessary step to avoid compliance infractions on this issue.
> 
> Related to this, Allison noted on May 8th on this list:
>>> Are you [Thomas] automatically logging which files were modified by each
>>> pattern match, for the legally conservative hack we talked about,
>>> preserving a historical record of altered license notices in a doc file?
> 
> IIUC, Thomas indicated in that thread that he could generate that information
> later, but given that we already have consensus on the idea, it seems to me
> it would be better if the patches themselves contained the moving of the
> notice text from the individual files into the single file, rather than
> reconstructing it on the back-end.  Richard, what do you think about that?
> 
> --
> Bradley M. Kuhn
> 
> Pls. support the charity where I work, Software Freedom Conservancy:
> https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-05-22 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-06 19:58 [Batch 1 - patch 12/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - gpl-2.0_208.RULE Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-21 17:58 ` Meta-question on GPL compliance of this activity Richard Fontana
2019-05-21 18:59   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-21 21:08   ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2019-05-22  9:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-22 13:30     ` Greg KH
2019-05-23  4:41       ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2019-05-23  5:42         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-22 16:14     ` J Lovejoy [this message]
2019-05-22 21:10       ` John Sullivan
2019-05-23  1:19         ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-23  6:06           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-29 20:57           ` John Sullivan
2019-05-29 21:30             ` Greg KH
2019-06-01  3:22               ` John Sullivan
2019-06-01  9:31                 ` Greg KH
2019-06-01  4:21               ` Richard Fontana
2019-05-24  4:33       ` Richard Fontana
2019-05-24  5:20         ` Greg KH
2019-05-24 20:24           ` Allison Randal
2019-05-25  1:07             ` Richard Fontana
2019-05-27 21:23               ` Allison Randal
2019-05-25 16:56             ` Greg KH
2019-05-27 21:54               ` Allison Randal
2019-05-28  7:21                 ` Dominik Brodowski
2019-05-22 13:27   ` Greg KH
2019-05-22 14:16     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-22 16:33       ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-22 16:52         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-22 17:00           ` J Lovejoy
2022-06-06 20:11 ` [Batch 1 - patch 12/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - gpl-2.0_208.RULE Richard Fontana
2022-06-06 20:17   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-06-07 18:12     ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2022-06-07 23:05       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-06-08  8:33         ` Allison Randal
2022-06-08 14:04           ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2022-06-08 14:59             ` Allison Randal
2022-06-08 17:18               ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2022-06-08 18:54                 ` Richard Fontana
2022-06-08 19:29                   ` Bradley M. Kuhn
     [not found]                     ` <02f4021f-63a5-4796-d790-2bacd37b90d2@jilayne.com>
2022-06-09  0:31                       ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2022-06-09  4:51                         ` J Lovejoy
2022-06-09 15:03                           ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2022-06-09  2:35                       ` Richard Fontana
2022-06-06 20:31   ` Bradley M. Kuhn

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