From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1fnYQl-00027R-Cm for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:03:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54210) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fnYQj-00027L-4r for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:03:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fnYQf-0002Pj-VE for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:03:53 -0400 Received: from resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net ([2001:558:fe16:19:96:114:154:162]:53070) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fnYQf-0002P9-O4 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:03:49 -0400 Received: from resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.242]) by resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id nX25fFuNBBuoenYQefQ4KE; Thu, 09 Aug 2018 00:03:48 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20161114; t=1533773028; bh=8RCqmMMLdlR6zmdb/SIxycHyhvSKi6rerqxeGhL60sU=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=J+o+oYMrL1vF+RjAg99FabqsNsilIOvSuy/uwmt495VKKdUMWJGSpzQ6dTKql9VZ2 emuPe2ZWTEtAVz7T75xX52Wd/WQL64zQKhDmRFbIGOJEy1DwEpYECQOjrojQqqMSDD 07G9l5CILFJUTF8OdEjmdLx3fYjS8Fp8YwrRZUHjbdwI+wHlOr2zuSrf687yaOUvP9 qiT/Z+O+v5I09JeoDE9XiSCABvHSV0Fe6899/45LMiyYO0OsAr8croHEv4mpPhEEf/ XZn7MYMPM+0+iWzYlJf9WnL7Wr4FK7tBGMrzhyyS1W5gmE3LQ1WxUxOX0/vr/L3fvj u2R15mkvnCOcQ== Received: from [192.168.10.125] ([73.60.223.101]) by resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id nYQcfWHS2ohbhnYQdfXYS2; Thu, 09 Aug 2018 00:03:48 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: Recent removal of a.out and COFF support for sparc From: Paul Koning In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 20:03:45 -0400 Cc: "Maciej W. Rozycki" , Cary Coutant , Alan Modra , Binutils , The development of GNU GRUB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <09A47618-4C8E-4E02-877C-8421DA65695B@comcast.net> References: <2d2f1c2a-1715-1348-c35a-ad562a3acbb2@physik.fu-berlin.de> <27449274-9250-97a3-1ff9-8b9c818659d4@physik.fu-berlin.de> <20180808015529.GP26457@bubble.grove.modra.org> <20180808131659.GA1544@bubble.grove.modra.org> <643f686e-d568-978d-07ab-31a62336966f@physik.fu-berlin.de> <91ae25c5-4af2-575f-b167-7e46027de7df@physik.fu-berlin.de> <6F5DD3AB-F40F-4353-B7DB-1C8C2B30EF87@comcast.net> To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfGivollREtkMR0XQne5DLwbAuYRRQO/LINfLA4d46dtwx7eoJ1ytD7X0o9I8y0f8BHbGGe46RPkrFrU2VEwFGNpd+zLdiJBSVls3SljT8GuedTL2F8jI NKBw4/E7Wfbg7PQ3RunVIWNrgpg6X43/eBoTpTnthwJZmBCx3+qQvYsABCfrBQw3CKtxb2UOnlgh1yi9XGRJ8e7NnQm7vindeOM5UYFeKEPbzn7awj6MQdNG UE24uCl0C5tDn3nc0pgObA6H3rvK38028FovvC2ssqKyBDsCatz3b3hN1Ef5wgfG3CS88gHuutTvg4YNcg1g1opHG9Jd1WGzaY7REUFE5Zc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2001:558:fe16:19:96:114:154:162 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 00:03:54 -0000 > On Aug 8, 2018, at 5:35 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz = wrote: >=20 > On 08/08/2018 11:27 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > ... >> Nor are there plans to trim the target set of gcc down to "current = mainstream targets", whatever that might mean. >=20 > Well, yes, I just linked one of those gcc targets - the e500 target - = earlier > today. The m68k target in gcc is also constantly under threat because = of the > planned cc0 removal. Both the e500 and the m68k targets in gcc are = actively > used. The m68k target is still very popular despite its age. As others have said, you need a maintainer for a target. I don't know = what the story is for the two platforms you mentioned. Maintaining an = older not so technically demanding platform is not all that hard. I = took on the pdp11 target some years ago because I wanted to make sure it = stayed alive, and it still is. For that matter, I recently did the CC0 = conversion for it. It's not that big a job, and probably easier for the = m68k. paul