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From: "Armin Kuster" <akuster808@gmail.com>
To: Randy MacLeod <randy.macleod@windriver.com>,
	Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com>,
	openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org, "Wei,
	Yunguo (Bryan)" <Yunguo.Wei@windriver.com>,
	Kevin Hao <kexin.hao@windriver.com>,
	Yocto discussion list <yocto@yoctoproject.org>
Subject: Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 6/7] default-distrovars.inc: add wayland/opengl to default distro features
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:36:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0c3b5a85-06e8-0097-a71c-42d4dbcc2d21@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8295040a-2b00-92f2-7ad5-95e2941f0dd6@windriver.com>



On 4/27/21 9:09 AM, Randy MacLeod wrote:
> Cross-posting to yocto since this is of general interest.
>
> On 2021-04-23 2:02 p.m., Alexander Kanavin wrote:
>> This puts them on equal terms with x11 distro feature
>> (which I think is due).
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com>
>> ---
>>   meta/conf/distro/include/default-distrovars.inc | 2 +-
>>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/meta/conf/distro/include/default-distrovars.inc
>> b/meta/conf/distro/include/default-distrovars.inc
>> index 9fcc10f83a..384ee7fc98 100644
>> --- a/meta/conf/distro/include/default-distrovars.inc
>> +++ b/meta/conf/distro/include/default-distrovars.inc
>> @@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ LOCALE_UTF8_ONLY ?= "0"
>>   LOCALE_UTF8_IS_DEFAULT ?= "1"
>>   LOCALE_UTF8_IS_DEFAULT_class-nativesdk = "0"
>>   -DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULT ?= "acl alsa argp bluetooth debuginfod
>> ext2 ipv4 ipv6 largefile pcmcia usbgadget usbhost wifi xattr nfs
>> zeroconf pci 3g nfc x11 vfat"
>> +DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULT ?= "acl alsa argp bluetooth debuginfod ext2
>> ipv4 ipv6 largefile pcmcia usbgadget usbhost wifi xattr nfs zeroconf
>> pci 3g nfc x11 vfat wayland opengl"
>>   DISTRO_FEATURES ?= "${DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULT}"
>>   IMAGE_FEATURES ?= ""
>>  
>
Randy,


> We (Wind River) already drop the x11 DF from some of our distros and
> we'd likely do the same for wayland and opengl so while this seems
> like the wrong change for headless systems it is one we could deal with.
>
> There was some discussion about this topic on the tech call today and
> people were concerned about BSP support for opengl since the software
> rendering in mesa is horridly slow.

Thanks for bring this issue up.

>
> Kevin, Bryan,
> Can you comment if you think we'd have any show-stopper problems
> with opengl support for BSPs?

Err, are they going to check my BSP ; )

>
> Joshua said that weston has a usable RDP (remote desktop backend) but
> I'm not sure how usable it is especially for single application sharing.
> This contrasts with x11 where you can use X11 forwarding over
> ssh trivially for whole desktops or an application.
>
> In conclusion, I see the value in pushing yocto forward but we may need
> to wait for agreement from BSP folks so let's see what they say.
The layer index  BSP list is long so waiting for feedback may not be
practical.  I think it may be  more of an awareness and how can the BSP
maintainers work around the default if there are issues rather than 
stopping this progress  in core.

I personal would rather see my layer break so that I will be forced to
take action.  I see this as being  no different than when we update
u-boot or the kernel.

- armin

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-27 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-23 18:02 [PATCH 1/7] core-image-weston: add sdk/ptest images Alexander Kanavin
2021-04-23 18:02 ` [PATCH 2/7] oeqa/buildperf: use weston image instead of sato Alexander Kanavin
2021-04-23 18:02 ` [PATCH 3/7] oeqa/core/tests/test_data.py: " Alexander Kanavin
2021-04-23 18:02 ` [PATCH 4/7] oeqa/selftest: transition to weston images Alexander Kanavin
2021-05-04 17:01   ` [OE-core] " Ross Burton
2021-05-04 18:04     ` Alexander Kanavin
2021-05-10 11:08       ` Ross Burton
2021-05-10 13:13         ` Alexander Kanavin
2021-04-23 18:02 ` [PATCH 5/7] core-image-multilib-example: base on weston, and not sato Alexander Kanavin
2021-04-23 18:02 ` [PATCH 6/7] default-distrovars.inc: add wayland/opengl to default distro features Alexander Kanavin
2021-04-27 16:09   ` [OE-core] " Randy MacLeod
2021-04-27 17:09     ` Otavio Salvador
2021-04-27 18:28       ` Alexander Kanavin
2021-04-27 20:36     ` Armin Kuster [this message]
2021-04-28  3:42     ` Kevin Hao
2021-04-23 18:02 ` [PATCH 7/7] poky.conf: remove wayland/opengl from distro features, as it is now oe-core default Alexander Kanavin

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