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From: Federico Di Gregorio <fog-NGVKUo/i/6DYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
To: ACPI Devel Mailing List
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Subject: vaio pcg-v505ap
Date: 07 Jul 2003 12:24:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1057573470.983.17.camel@lana> (raw)


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hi *,

my old asus S1300 died and i am experimenting with a new sony vaio
pcg-v505ap. i am having a little problem that i don't know if can be
caused by acpi. i'll try to explain with as much information as i can
and i'll attach dmesg log and dsdt table to this mail and hope... :)

basically both when using an external usb mouse or the builtin touchpad
the left button gets "stuck" even when not actively using the mouse.
e.g., i am writing in emacs and i get a selection or i am moving the
mouse and windows get moved or shaded as if someone was clicking like
fool. this stops when i click the left button once.

the problem gets worse as devices using the same irq are used. heavy
network traffic makes the problem worser.  also note that this vaio
assigns *everything* to irq 9, but i don't know if this is the problem.

dmesg show two problems, imho:

Transparent bridge - Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGP_._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.HUB_._PRT]
ACPI: Embedded Controller [EC0] (gpe 28)
schedule_task(): keventd has not started
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs *9)

and:

ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 9
 pci_irq-0297 [23] acpi_pci_irq_derive   : Unable to derive IRQ for
device 00:1f.1
PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 00:1f.1 - using IRQ 255

sorry for providing so little information on a problem that can be
completely independent from acpi. 

thank you very much,
federico







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Linux version 2.4.22-pre3 (root@lana) (gcc version 3.3.1 20030626 (Debian prerelease)) #2 Mon Jul 7 10:58:31 CEST 2003
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009e800 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000000000009e800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000000d8000 - 00000000000e0000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000000e4000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000000fef0000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000000000fef0000 - 000000000feff000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 000000000feff000 - 000000000ff00000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 000000000ff00000 - 000000000ff80000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000000000ff80000 - 0000000010000000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000ff800000 - 00000000ffc00000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000fff80000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
255MB LOWMEM available.
ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0001000
On node 0 totalpages: 65408
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 61312 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 PTLTD                      ) @ 0x000f73d0
ACPI: RSDT (v001   SONY       B2 08194.04633) @ 0x0fefb275
ACPI: FADT (v002   SONY       B2 08194.04633) @ 0x0fefed8b
ACPI: BOOT (v001   SONY       B2 08194.04633) @ 0x0fefee0f
ACPI: SSDT (v001   SONY       B2 08194.04633) @ 0x0fefee37
ACPI: SSDT (v001   SONY       B2 08194.04633) @ 0x0fefef1e
ACPI: DSDT (v001   SONY       B2 08194.04633) @ 0x00000000
ACPI: BIOS passes blacklist
ACPI: MADT not present
Sony Vaio laptop detected.
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Debian-2.4.22p3 ro root=306 hdc=ide-scsi pci=biosirq
ide_setup: hdc=ide-scsi
No local APIC present or hardware disabled
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 1988.580 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 3945.26 BogoMIPS
Memory: 255988k/261632k available (1469k kernel code, 5188k reserved, 549k data, 104k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU:     After generic, caps: bfebf9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU:             Common caps: bfebf9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Intel Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 - M CPU 2.00GHz stepping 07
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch-r1x6VkxMR+00zabcByZE4g@public.gmane.org)
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030619
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd9ca, last bus=2
PCI: Using configuration type 1
 tbxface-0117 [03] acpi_load_tables      : ACPI Tables successfully acquired
Parsing all Control Methods:..........................................................................................................................................
Table [DSDT](id F006) - 459 Objects with 47 Devices 138 Methods 17 Regions
Parsing all Control Methods:.
Table [SSDT](id F004) - 3 Objects with 0 Devices 1 Methods 0 Regions
Parsing all Control Methods:
Table [SSDT](id F003) - 2 Objects with 0 Devices 0 Methods 0 Regions
ACPI Namespace successfully loaded at root c0325a5c
evxfevnt-0093 [04] acpi_enable           : Transition to ACPI mode successful
evgpeblk-0748 [06] ev_create_gpe_block   : GPE 00 to 15 [_GPE] 2 regs at 0000000000001028 on int 9
evgpeblk-0748 [06] ev_create_gpe_block   : GPE 16 to 31 [_GPE] 2 regs at 000000000000102C on int 9
Completing Region/Field/Buffer/Package initialization:................................................................
Initialized 16/17 Regions 0/0 Fields 22/22 Buffers 26/26 Packages (472 nodes)
Executing all Device _STA and_INI methods:................................................
48 Devices found containing: 48 _STA, 2 _INI methods
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: System [ACPI] (supports S0 S3 S4 S5)
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller 00:1f.1
Transparent bridge - Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGP_._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.HUB_._PRT]
ACPI: Embedded Controller [EC0] (gpe 28)
schedule_task(): keventd has not started
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs *9)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 9, disabled)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 9, disabled)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs *9)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs *9)
pci_link-0187 [22] acpi_pci_link_check_cu: Blank IRQ resource
pci_link-0252 [21] acpi_pci_link_get_curr: No IRQ resource found
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 9, disabled)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 9, disabled)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 9, disabled)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 9
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 9
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] enabled at IRQ 9
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] enabled at IRQ 9
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 9
 pci_irq-0297 [23] acpi_pci_irq_derive   : Unable to derive IRQ for device 00:1f.1
PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 00:1f.1 - using IRQ 255
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
PCI: if you experience problems, try using option 'pci=noacpi' or even 'acpi=off'
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
devfs: v1.12c (20020818) Richard Gooch (rgooch-r1x6VkxMR+00zabcByZE4g@public.gmane.org)
devfs: boot_options: 0x1
ACPI: AC Adapter [ACAD] (on-line)
ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present)
ACPI: Lid Switch [LID]
ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB]
ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1 C2, 2 performance states, 8 throttling states)
ACPI: Thermal Zone [ATF0] (58 C)
radeonfb: ref_clk=2700, ref_div=60, xclk=14375 from BIOS
radeonfb: panel ID string: 1024x768                
radeonfb: detected DFP panel size from BIOS: 1024x768
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48
radeonfb: ATI Radeon M6 LY  DDR SGRAM 16 MB
radeonfb: DVI port LCD monitor connected
radeonfb: CRT port no monitor connected
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
eepro100.c:v1.09j-t 9/29/99 Donald Becker http://www.scyld.com/network/eepro100.html
eepro100.c: $Revision: 1.36 $ 2000/11/17 Modified by Andrey V. Savochkin <saw-5bpFXmC1L3aJ4eUNlOKu3Q@public.gmane.org> and others
eth0: Intel Corp. 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller, 08:00:46:99:28:A0, IRQ 9.
  Board assembly 000000-000, Physical connectors present: RJ45
  Primary interface chip i82555 PHY #1.
  General self-test: passed.
  Serial sub-system self-test: passed.
  Internal registers self-test: passed.
  ROM checksum self-test: passed (0x04f4518b).
Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 203M
agpgart: Detected Intel i845 chipset
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xec000000
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ICH3M: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:1f.1
PCI: Enabling device 00:1f.1 (0005 -> 0007)
 pci_irq-0297 [26] acpi_pci_irq_derive   : Unable to derive IRQ for device 00:1f.1
PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 00:1f.1 - using IRQ 255
ICH3M: chipset revision 2
ICH3M: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1860-0x1867, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1868-0x186f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: IC25N040ATCS04-0, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c033b3c0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
hdc: UJDA745 DVD/CDRW, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: attached ide-disk driver.
hda: host protected area => 1
hda: 78140160 sectors (40008 MB) w/1768KiB Cache, CHS=4864/255/63, UDMA(100)
Partition check:
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 < p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 p10 >
Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22
  options:  [pci] [cardbus]
usb.c: registered new driver hub
Yenta IRQ list 0cb8, PCI irq9
Socket status: 30000006
Initializing Cryptographic API
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 16Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 32768)
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly.
Mounted devfs on /dev
Freeing unused kernel memory: 104k freed
Adding Swap: 497972k swap-space (priority -1)
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,6), internal journal
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
hdc: attached ide-scsi driver.
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
  Vendor: MATSHITA  Model: UJDA745 DVD/CDRW  Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 10:58:50 Jul  7 2003
usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:1d.0 to 64
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0x1800, IRQ 9
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:1d.1 to 64
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0x1820, IRQ 9
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:1d.2 to 64
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0x1840, IRQ 9
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
usb.c: registered new driver usblp
printer.c: v0.11: USB Printer Device Class driver
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
usb.c: registered new driver usbmouse
usbmouse.c: v1.6:USB HID Boot Protocol mouse driver
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 10:55:03 Jul  7 2003
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:1f.5 to 64
i810: Intel ICH3 found at IO 0x18c0 and 0x1c00, MEM 0x0000 and 0x0000, IRQ 9
hub.c: new USB device 00:1d.1-1, assigned address 2
input0: B16_b_02 USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse on usb2:2.0
i810_audio: Audio Controller supports 6 channels.
i810_audio: Defaulting to base 2 channel mode.
i810_audio: Resetting connection 0
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: YMH3 (Unknown)
i810_audio: only 48Khz playback available.
i810_audio: AC'97 codec 0 supports AMAP, total channels = 2
hub.c: new USB device 00:1d.2-1, assigned address 2
scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
  Vendor: Sony      Model: MSC-U03           Rev: 2.00
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured
USB Mass Storage device found at 2
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,7), internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,8), internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,9), internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x4d0-0x4d7
cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean.
klips_info:ipsec_init: KLIPS startup, FreeS/WAN IPSec version: 2.00

[drm] AGP 0.99 aperture @ 0xec000000 64MB
[drm] Initialized radeon 1.8.0 20020828 on minor 0
Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12

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00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 8138
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
	Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
	Capabilities: <available only to root>

00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 96
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=64
	I/O behind bridge: 00003000-00003fff
	Memory behind bridge: e8100000-e81fffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f0000000-f7ffffff

00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 8138
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9
	I/O ports at 1800 [size=32]

00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 8138
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9
	I/O ports at 1820 [size=32]

00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #3) (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 8138
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9
	I/O ports at 1840 [size=32]

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 42) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=64
	I/O behind bridge: 00004000-00004fff
	Memory behind bridge: e8200000-e82fffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f8000000-f80fffff

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801CAM IDE U100 (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
	Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 8138
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 255
	I/O ports at <ignored>
	I/O ports at <ignored>
	I/O ports at <ignored>
	I/O ports at <ignored>
	I/O ports at 1860 [size=16]
	Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM SMBus (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 8138
	Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 9
	I/O ports at 1880 [size=32]

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 8138
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9
	I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
	I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]

00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Generic])
	Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 8138
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9
	I/O ports at 2400 [size=256]
	I/O ports at 2000 [size=128]

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY (prog-if 00 [VGA])
	Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 8138
	Flags: bus master, stepping, fast Back2Back, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 66, IRQ 9
	Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
	I/O ports at 3000 [size=256]
	Memory at e8100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
	Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=128K]
	Capabilities: <available only to root>

02:02.0 Network controller: Harris Semiconductor: Unknown device 3872 (rev 01)
	Subsystem: AMBIT Microsystem Corp.: Unknown device 0202
	Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 9
	Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: <available only to root>

02:05.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev b8)
	Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 8138
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 9
	Memory at 10000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=06, sec-latency=176
	Memory window 0: 10400000-107ff000 (prefetchable)
	Memory window 1: 10800000-10bff000
	I/O window 0: 00004400-000044ff
	I/O window 1: 00004800-000048ff
	16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

02:05.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C551 IEEE 1394 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
	Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 8138
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 9
	Memory at e8201000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
	Capabilities: <available only to root>

02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42)
	Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 8138
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 66, IRQ 9
	Memory at e8200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	I/O ports at 4000 [size=64]
	Capabilities: <available only to root>


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             reply	other threads:[~2003-07-07 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-07 10:24 Federico Di Gregorio [this message]
     [not found] ` <1057573470.983.17.camel-c5SRAS+BrbU@public.gmane.org>
2003-07-11 13:56   ` vaio pcg-v505ap Ducrot Bruno
     [not found]     ` <20030711135638.GD22636-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-07-11 14:07       ` Federico Di Gregorio

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